What’s Wrong with LBC? Part 2

What’s Wrong with Lake Bible Church? Part 2

“You’re Enabling My Dad to Endanger My Life!”

This article is Part 2 of the Open Letter from Juli (& me) to all current and former attenders/members of Lake Bible Church, or to anyone who has benefited from (Emeritus) Pastor Jim’s radio and books ministries, TFW and JAB. If you have not yet read Part 1, please do so now, as it is intertwined with this article thematically and biblically.

As we will demonstrate in this article, Pastor Jim has taught consistently throughout Scripture that all believers are to hold one another accountable, since we are all part of the Body of Christ. This function is part of the those stemming from the Priesthood of All Believers. These teachings, among others, have been collected and arranged into three Subjects on our TFW website: The Definition and Purpose of the Church, and The Practices of the Churchand Spiritual Gifts in the Church:

Here is a very brief summary of the key passages that Pastor Jim has exposited on this subject:

Eph. 4:3-16:

1) We must never focus on the recipient of the spiritual gift more than the Giver Himself (from 13:00-14:45), 2) We should never use our spiritual gifts selfishly or to over shadow those with smaller gifts (@17:20), 3) We should never use our gifts to tear down other members of the Body; all parts of the Body are to work together harmoniously to serve Christ the Head (@22:00).

1 Cor 12:1-11:

1) We must guard against those with greater gifts, including preachers and other leaders, from getting puffed up (@14-15 min), 2) We have each been given a spiritual gift at conversion by the Holy Spirit, v.7 (@16 min.), 3) We must reject those who try to force all believers to have the same gift; variety is part of His plan! (@17 min), 4) We must not use our gifts to exalt ourselves or manipulate others for selfish ends v.7 (@21 min), 4) We must remember that we are accountable to God for how we use our gifts—see Parable of the Talents in Mat.25 (@22 min), 5) We must recognize God’s sovereign distribution of gifts and refuse to exalt ourselves or belittle others because of their gifts (@22:15).

1 Cor 12:12-31,

1) Pastor Jim reviews the content of the previous program, repeating at @2:40 with an illustration about a weedeater that lacked a small but essential part in order to function, “We need all those little springs in the Church”, 2) We must not envy others’ gifts @4 min, 3) We learn about the organic nature of the Body of Christ, realizing that each gift is necessary for its proper functioning (@6 min), 4) We see the difference between the local church and the Church Universal and the Holy Spirit’s central role in the latter @7:20, @8:55, @11:45, 5) We must accept our responsibility as members of the Body to use our gifts since each one of us is essential and none is autonomous @13-15, 6) We must submit to God’s wisdom regarding the placement of gifts within the Body @15, 7) We must never arrogantly dismiss those with other gifts in selfish pride, @15:30 (remember the “little spring” in the opening illustration?), 8) All pastors should know that the least visible and seemingly unimportant members of the Body are actually the most valuable and necessary, (@17:20), and thus should be more greatly honored (@19 min), and 9) Without love, all the spiritual gifts amount to nothing @23:00.

Thus, Juli & I have used our spiritual gifts of discernment and teaching (which Pastor Jim has identified and developed in us over the past three decades) and have addressed each of our articles to a specific category of leadership at LBC (Senior Pastor, Elders). Pastor Jim teaches in Colossians 3:16-17 and Ephesians 5:21 the principle of mutual submission and accountability in all directions.

In our 3-25-23 letter to the LBC Board of Elders (p.7), we reminded them of Pastor Jim’s biblical prescription for Elders and congregants to hold the Senior Pastor accountable:

Perhaps the best message we have ever heard about a pastor’s accountability to his congregation and lay elders was when Pastor Jim spoke in 2019 on Ezra 7:10 at his grandson’s (Alex Dotson’s) ordination in Roseburg.

(This video may take a few minutes to load and play. Listen from 26:30-53:00.)

@32:00, Jim begins his charge to Alex as pastor to remain faithful to the Word of God, “to Know It, to Do It , and to Teach It.” Then he specifies that Alex must teach without fear of man (44:45-48:00).

@48:30 Jim now begins his charge to the congregation to uphold their responsibilities.

@51:50, Jim discusses his final point under this heading. He says, “And finally, accountabilityI would never urge a congregation to stand up for a pastor no matter what. That’s a bad thing. We all need to be accountable, and pastors need to accountable also. I would never want, even though I’m his grandfather, if he (Alex) is in the wrong, if he’s gone rogue, I will not support him, and you shouldn’t either. Pastors need to be held accountable.”

However, since the Board of Elders has failed to hold Pastor Jim accountable for his personal sinful behavior and doctrinal compromise, it therefore falls upon the congregants to do so. Pastor Jim: I would never urge a congregation to stand up for a pastor no matter what. That’s a bad thing. We all need to be accountable, and pastors need to accountable also.”

This is all the more urgent because this Elders’ culpable negligence has allowed Pastor Jim to descend into extremely dangerous territory morally. And this could have dangerous consequences for the life of his own daughter, Juli!

By way of review, in our previous articles, we have proven, according to Pastor Jim’s own teaching, that he has been disobedient in multiple areas as a consequence of an unspecified health problem:

Part 12: Pastor Jim has willfully partnered with a heretical publisher, Xulon Press, which claims to be “Christian,” but also publishes heretical Catholic and NAR books. This violates his teaching in many passages such as 2 John 5-10, 11-13; Matthew 28:19, etc.

Also, Pastor Jim is violating his own biblical teaching about partnering with a so-called “Christian” publisher who is willing to compromise the Gospel for the sake of money (from 1 Timothy 6:5-6):

@16:20 Well, some people back then, as do so many people today, seize upon people’s worship of God as an opportunity to capitalize financially and make a few bucks. For example, you get emails offering us entree to a $4 billion religious market, or you get a catalog from a speakers’ bureau offering us high profile speakers for church events at a handsome price. It’s unbelievable.

Nobody has exploited it so well as the Christian entertainers, whose love of fame and fortune far out distances, to say the least, any love of God. These people would sell their souls to the Devil for their ambition, and many seem to have sold out. The Christian publishing industry and the Christian bookstores don’t publish or sell what needs to be published or sold. Rather, they seize the opportunity to make money, and they will publish and they will sell heresy, if it will make them money.” Ends 17:25

Part 13: Pastor Jim has violated man’s (civil) law by taking possession of two websites he no longer owned, and he has unbiblically revoked financial support from disabled daughter and son-in-law

(These two points will be dealt with later in this article.)

Elders, Part 1: Pastor Jim has committed a serious civil offense of defamation of character against me (Paul) by both explicitly and implicitly falsely accusing me of emotionally torturing his wife, Olsie, including denying her access to her daughter, Juli.

In addition, Pastor Jim has demonstrated heretofore unthinkable abusive behavior toward his own wife, Olsie, pretending to speak for her without her knowledge or consent and publicly lying about me (Paul). Why this behavior is so abusive will become even more evident to you in the course of this article.

(Again, the issues of the civil offense of unlawful possession of the websites will be dealt with later.

LBC (congregation), Part 1: Pastor Jim has allowed pro-LGBTQ curriculum into our Children’s Ministry (and other departments) as early as 2017, and he did not stop it when we confronted him privately in 2020.

Now we have arrived at LBC (congregation), Part 2:

The purpose of this current article is to show that Pastor Jim’s abusive behavior toward his own wife and daughter (and son-in-law) has now resulted in life-endangering circumstances for both women, esp. for Juli:

As you may be aware pastor Jim publicly announced on April 7, 2024 that his wife, Olsie, had been diagnosed with cognitive decline. Unfortunately, he added to the grievous nature of this moment by simultaneously and falsely blaming me, his son-in-law, both explicitly and implicitly, for her current health condition.

In our Elders, Part 1 article, Juli and I have already begun refuting Pastor Jim’s cruel act of civil defamation, but now you will see that this behavior is part of a larger pattern of emotional abuse that Pastor Jim began in 2015 toward his wife Olsie, and his sick, disabled bedbound daughter. For example, early in that year, Olsie shockingly informed *us that Pastor Jim had recently begun unfairly blaming her for two of her health problems that she had not caused, nor was she able to reverse them just because they were frustrating to him.

(*By the way, according to Pastor Jim’s teaching from Scripture, two or three witnesses who are of godly character and of sound mind constitute biblically valid testimony. In the OT, someone could be convicted and sentenced to death by this testimony (Deut. 17:6). Listen to 1 Timothy 5:17-20.)

This news was completely unthinkable to us prior to this. And we would have had no way to know this if Olsie hadn’t told us. Sadly, this not only damaged Olsie physically and psychologically, but due to her own already declining mental health, she then unfortunately perpetuated the cycle of abuse. Olsie soon began mimicking her husband’s abusive behavior by blaming us for things that we could not help either. As we wrote to the elders on 1-30-23:

p.3-4 Let me add here that Jim has even freely admitted twice to being emotionally abusive toward Olsie, both times in 2017 (once implicitly and once explicitly).

Yet despite our desperate pleas for Jim to do his biblical due diligence and seek medical attention for himself and for Olsie, he has refused to do so for both of them. In addition, because he has emotionally abused Olsie beginning in 2015, she has tragically become (like many abuse victims) abusive of others, in this case, Juli & me (because we are disabled and physically/financially dependent on her.)

Pastor Jim also began a heretofore nonexistent pattern of blaming Juli, his own sick, disabled bedbound daughter, for worsening or causing her own mother’s cognitive decline.

In paragraph 1 of the following email, Pastor Jim describes both Olsie’s early symptoms of cognitive decline, as well as demonstrating his cruel tactic of blaming an innocent victim (Juli) for it:

From: Jim Andrews <jima@lakebiblechurch.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 6:47 PM
To: Paul Grose <paulgrose1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Olsie

Paul, Juli has to stop.  You all may not realize it, but Olsie is on a narrow ledge as far as her mental health is concerned.  She is not sleeping well.  She is having trouble getting out of bed.  TMJ for weeks has been about to take off the top of her head.  Can find no relief but somehow keeps on going.  Stresses everyday come at her from 19 different directions that you guys have no idea about.  Both of us are showing signs at times of dementia (not really) but neither of us can remember the simplest things, too much coming at us, especially her.  She is literally getting worn out and if things don’t let up soon, she is going to snap.

I realize nobody has it worse than you two, but she does all she can to help.  I am just asking that you guys don’t compound the problem, or she is not going to be there for you one of these days.  I can see it coming.

Jim

Notice that pastor Jim unfairly and cruelly blames the worsening of Olsie’s condition on Juli. What was her alleged “crime?” She was simply begging her mom to take medical responsibility for herself, instead of fatalistically giving up and stopping a medication, since she had been stating recently that she was on the verge of having another nervous breakdown. (Olsie had frequently taken this OTC medicine for the prior 20 years, without incident, and it was necessary to keep her strong enough to function.)

Remember that Pastor Jim wrote extensively about Olsie’s struggles with severe depression, which began in 1992, in his book, Polishing God’s Monuments: Pillars of Hope for Punishing Times. And, of course, Olsie had been our in-home caregiver for the previous 28 years, and we could not afford for her health to deteriorate since there was nobody to take her place.

So then, after I read Pastor Jim’s email, I explained to him potential diagnoses that needed to be checked out for Olsie [see edited excerpts below], but inexplicably, after just stating how worried he was about her mental and physical health, he refused to accept any responsibility for her health and get her the medical attention she desperately needed [see Jim’s response below mine]:

There are AT LEAST 3 major health issues that can affect Olsie’s mood and ability to cope that [Olsie’s doctor] has been unwilling to check into (because Medicare won’t pay for the test).  The first is [one possible diagnosis]. When Olsie watched a Dr. Oz presentation, she recognized that she has many of the common symptoms … Then she asked [current doctor] and it went nowhere.

The other problem that should have been checked into is [another possible diagnosis]. Again, [current doctor] didn’t want to order that.

Also [third option], she has [another possible diagnosis]. Here’s a link. This can cause depression and irritability.

Up to this point, I understand why you’ve continued w/[current doctor] and I want you to continue.  However, since Olsie’s depression is getting much worse, you don’t have a choice right now to do nothing. [bolding added]. But these issues need to be addressed and [current doctor] doesn’t seem able to help, so you need to get someone else also to fix these.  We will do all we can to help as well.

This current situation is making it hard for Olsie to come over, but we need her help.  Please don’t delay in checking this out.

Pastor Jim’s ultimate response several days later (May 11, 2015):

Finally, we have neither the time nor extra money to be running around to any more doctors or whatever.   No more until it is absolutely necessary.  We have much work to do and I am not going to spend the time I am supposed to be working running around trying this or trying that for conditions I either don’t think exist or trying expensive treatments for dubious conditions that I am not convinced make a dimes worth of difference.

So then, as you can see, after just acknowledging the possible onset of Olsie’s dementia, Pastor Jim himself failed to obey his own teaching from God’s Word regarding being a responsible steward of one’s body. Here are just two examples:

A pastor should take care of his body (same for pastor’s wife): 1 Timothy 4:14-16.

The Apostle Paul instructed the sailors to eat and appropriate God’s means of grace for their physical sustenance, instead of expecting a miraculous provision. Same with us . Acts 27:35-44

Unfortunately, he has continued this pattern of denying access to MEDICALLY ADEQUATE (key distinction here!) health care for both his wife Olsie and daughter Juli, contradicting his own teaching from God’s Word in 1 Timothy 5 (multiple sermons, excerpts below):

1 Timothy 5:13-17:

@15:14, In the caring equation a lesson to be learned here is this. I’ve hammered on it before. I hammer on it again. The lesson is that of concentric circles of social responsibility in Christian charity. I’m repeating myself. It’s not that we Christians are to care only or primarily for those nearest us, but it is that our duty, our Christian duty, it is this: to care and to provide begins at home, though it does not end there.

If we, as God’s people, cannot care for those nearest and dearest, it just shows that the so-called “love” that we extend to those remote from us is obviously driven by some motive other than Christian compassion for the needy and distressed. What motive might that be? Well, just to feel good about ourselves, not to honor God, to get a little applause, to get a little write up in the paper, maybe a picture of us doing these things and pat ourselves on the back. There’s a lot of that that goes on in the Christian world. As Paul has already indicated, something is terribly amiss spiritually in those who refuse to care for their own. Start there. @16:30

1 Timothy 5:9-13:

@4:35, Folks, we should love the world, but we should be like God. The love of God extends first to the family of God, and there’s something wrong with any pastor who would go out caring for his flock and caring for the people in the community and neglect his own family. There’s something wrong with the church, and there’s something wrong with people that always want to run out and care for others and neglect the needy right in their own congregations. @5:00

1 Timothy 5:3-8

@22:56 And worse than that, the apostle says, If anyone does not provide for his own… of course, it’s assuming that you have means to provide. What you don’t have, you can’t be expected to give. But if we do not provide for our own, for our own family… I know people that won’t even care for their own wives when they’re sick or their own husbands. They say, “Hey, I didn’t sign up for this. I’m out.” If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially those of his own household, immediate family, he or she (this is serious, you’ve denied the faith. You’re an apostate. You’re worse than an unbeliever. So let’s take all of these things, folks, very, very seriously, because many don’t. Remember, Christian charity begins at home. @23:42

Regarding this last excerpt, Pastor Jim told us about a professing believer at LBC who refused to pay for life-saving medical care for his wife, and this continued for some time. So this particular section is highly relevant to this discussion because he is now exhibiting the same behavior he rightly condemned in others.

By the way, Pastor Jim’s ardent supporters have tried to defend his indefensible actions by insisting that others should provide financially for his daughter instead. However, each of them has failed to make a case from the key passages in Scripture, including 1 Timothy 5:3-8 above. Rather, they have used arguments based on emotions and unbiblical rationalizations, which Pastor Jim has criticized even himself for: (See p.142 in Jim’s Pastors Manual):

Now, to my discredit, there were warning signs ahead of the storm for both of these men [staff members that Pastor Jim hired] that I foolishly ignored, thinking the Lord would surely not let me and this ministry get sidetracked with foxes in the henhouse. I have learned the hard way, however, that God will never enable those who fail to fully discharge their responsibilities to continue in their bad habit without consequences. Take it from me and learn here. By no means did I get it all wrong, but these errors were avoidable and just a little sanctified common sense would have made up for lack of experience. For whatever reasons in the providence of God, some mistakes are bound to happen despite your best efforts. Still, that is no excuse to shrug these blunders off fatalistically and neglect whatever can be done on the human side to minimize the mistakes in hiring.

In addition, their rationalizations ring even more hollow when examined in the harsh light of the new reality: all other relatives, contacts and resources have been fully exhausted. Yet even though Pastor Jim knows this information, he still refuses to obey his own teaching from God’s Word and provide for his own daughter (to the best of his ability), either directly or indirectly.

So then, does the fact that Emeritus Pastor Jim is no longer receiving his salary exempt him from all responsibility? Hardly. What loving father (and he has always been one, until recently) would coldly ignore his sick, disabled daughter’s upcoming medical surgeries (that stem from her horse-riding accident at age 10) just because he himself wasn’t able to pay himself? He would be calling and emailing everyone he knew to beg them to help her!

Consider this self-description (this excerpt is from p.18; read p.17-22 for full story) in Polishing God’s Monuments: Pillars of Hope for Punishing Times of Pastor Jim’s love for Juli shortly before that near-fatal accident in June, 1976:

Who can describe the horror of a scene like that for a parent? Ironically, only the previous afternoon, as Don and I were chatting in his living room, Juli just happened to prance past us. For some reason, as my eyes followed her happy steps, the thought had flitted across my mind, “My, how I love that kid! I could never bear to lose her.” Now almost exactly twenty-four hours later, the threat of that very nightmare was unfolding before my eyes.

Now, compare that quote with this series of texts I exchanged with Jim on 9/11/24 beginning @5:48 p.m.:

How could any Christian, let alone a pastor, justify his cruel actions of “apostate abandonment” (described in Part 13)? He is not only refusing to obey his own teaching from 1 Timothy 5:8, but he is clearly discouraging those LBC members (who are the primary source of Christian fellowship and ministry opportunities into which Juli & I have invested ourselves for the past 30 years) from giving to us financially because of his refusal to admit his own unlawful actions (as described in Part 13  and Elders, Part 1).

Here is an excerpt from an email from my dad after he and my mom met with Jim & Olsie in July 2024:

We also talked about possible donors to help. Neither family has resources to assist. They explained their finances to us, and that of their family.   Jim believed most LBC people would be reluctant to step in because of the conflict over The Final Word.

Thus, because of Pastor Jim’s decision to continue violating man’s (civil) law regarding website ownership, he has created a cruel legal impasse, using it to blame us and therefore deny us support of any kind, including raising support for us from others.

Therefore, it is now necessary to bring this to the attention of The Final Word Board, which we began to do on 1/30/23 in a letter to a Board member sent by legal courier. Whether or not this man was still a Board member then is irrelevant. We now therefore request the help of the public to identify the current TFW Board members and ask them to direct Pastor Jim to step down as President of the organization. As I wrote to Jim last December (2023):

Jim, based on your 2 requests from 12/15/23 and our 12/25/23 phone conversation, you have given me no factual or legal basis for your contentions and allegations about me having your “intellectual property.” If you hadn’t just confirmed that you read my 11-page legal document, I would have no idea that you had done so, since you continue to refuse to engage with any of the facts or legal principles/laws contained therein in a serious, responsible way.

Your behavior before the law over the past (nearly) 2 years has been a disgrace to the name of Christ, especially since I was forced to hire a …lawyer after receiving your threats of taking away our ministry roles. Your pattern of refusing to acknowledge receiving legal documents makes you look (maybe because it’s true) that you don’t have a legal leg to stand on. This is not how any good citizen should act, and you have no regard for the damage done to your witness and LBC’s as a result…

Even if you were in the right legally (which you have yet to prove), your stalling tactics would be considered cruel by any non-Christian, given our precarious health and desperation to resolve the crisis that you created.

THEREFORE, if you expect me to act upon your request, you will need to answer my legal document, point by point, in a historical and legally relevant fashion to authenticate your claims of ownership, just as I did. But it should be quite apparent that I, as the owner of the website/url, have no obligation to turn anything at all over to you. In fact, it is just the reverse.

So Jim, make your case in the manner I specified, both quickly and accurately. And as you said to me on the phone, “if we go on, we’re going to go into bad territory.” I agree. Love, Paul & Juli

P.S. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that I haven’t told you yet about the second, independent legal avenue establishing ownership that I have.

What is the “second, independent legal avenue” I referred to nearly a year ago?  Not only is Pastor Jim NOT the owner of the websites he gave me years ago, but in addition, he SHOULD NOT BE the owner, because he has disqualified himself from the ministry at LBC, TFW and JAB, as specified in LBC, Part 1:

But in January 2020, Pastor Jim informed us through a trusted emissary that he was no longer healthy enough to supervise all of the doctrinal content being taught at LBC, as he had always done beforehand. He stated that he was now unable to handle the emotional pressure of holding LBC’s ministry leaders accountable for their strict adherence to God’s Word.

… Therefore, based on Pastor Jim’s consistent, lifelong teaching all throughout Scripture (including the above passages) on the primary responsibility of pastors to protect their flock from error (See also Pastor Jim’s Pastor’s Manual, p.173-190, #20, “Pathogens in the Pews,” and this article summarizing the key passages about the need for pastors to be vigilant regarding false teachers,  https://help2needy.com/do-not-participate-in-the-unfruitful-deeds-of-darkness/ ) , he had just indicated to us by this statement that he was no longer medically or spiritually fit to hold the high office of Senior Pastor. Thus, he had just disqualified himself from the pastorate.

This where the Body of Christ must step in and prevent Pastor Jim from irreversibly endangering his wife’s and daughter’s health. First, regarding Olsie, in 2015, he refused (as demonstrated above) to ensure that she received MEDICALLY ADEQUATE health care to address her cognitive decline symptoms. Tragically, Olsie lost her job in January 2024, depriving them and us of much-needed income. Jim has continued this mistreatment up to the present, even refusing to read a lengthy, detailed letter that Juli wrote, trying to prevent her mom from getting severe dementia (which ultimately happened):

As we wrote to the unnamed TFW Board Member on 1/30/23:

In addition, consider the horrible torture inflicted on a bedridden, disabled 57-year-old woman when her father Jim, was unwilling to read the 22-page letter (sent May 2022) that she had researched for a full 2 years and written at great physical sacrifice in order to inform [Olsie]…about the very latest medical advancements [regarding cognitive decline]…

And for the past year (off & on), Juli & I have been working assiduously to help Olsie implement the diet and treatments that researchers from Harvard, UCLA and others have discovered treat cognitive decline, yet Pastor Jim recently refused to even watch a video that Juli had requested so that he could help Olsie better.

Olsie has had many falls in the past few years, beginning in April 2022, when she fell and broke her ankle. But Pastor Jim has refused to immediately check into recently uncovered diagnosis of a hypercoagulable condition that a clotting expert, David Berg, M.S., founder of Hemex Labs, had identified in her bloodwork about 20 years ago. Mr Berg, who eventually sold his company to LabCorp for about $1+ million in 2020, had taken a special interest in Olsie due to this unusual finding, and he charged me with the responsibility of monitoring her long-term in order to prevent a cardiovascular incident.

And finally, Pastor Jim has also denied his desperately ill and trauma-injured (brainstem & upper cervical spine) daughter from receiving the emotional and financial support from others, not just himself. This is beyond cruel, and nobody is willing to stand up to him and confront him with his unbiblical actions. As stated above, her condition is so severe that she requires multiple surgeries, but those in Pastor Jim’s circle of influence (LBC members, TFW listeners, and former students) have all refused to listen to our warnings about his health and the destruction he is causing, and have turned a deaf ear to Juli’s cries for help.

Here is a recent video showing Dianna Cowern, a former MIT graduate and YouTube science influencer (with millions of followers) with M.E. (from Long Covid) during an 11-hour fundraiser for OMF, led by Stanford Professor of Biochemistry, Dr. Ron Davis.

The 35-year-old MIT-educated science communicator, known for her popular Physics Girl YouTube channel, has been confined to her bed in a dark room, unable to use the bathroom on her own, read, or watch television. She can only communicate with her husband, Kyle Kitzmiller, through occasional whispers, notes, and hand signals.

The difference between Dianna and Juli is that Juli has been diagnosed with craniocervical instability, requiring surgery. Therefore, she is even more disabled. In addition, Kyle is healthy, and I (Paul) had to go back on full disability due to a relapse with my M.E. disease.

So, unless someone stands up to Pastor Jim, Juli will not survive. He could “call off the dogs” instantly and repent, walking obediently again as he had done for so many decades.

P.S. A footnote to the Board of Elders at LBC: Pastor Jim’s spiritually abusive actions in 2017 led him to falsely accuse us of somehow “trying to divide this church” and “backdooring” him (two separate occasions). He subsequently discovered that he was acting on incorrect information, and he apologized. This led to our temporary recusal from TFW, JAB and LBC for about 10 days in May/June 2017.

However, once this was resolved, we resumed work with all three entities (at various levels), and we helped Pastor Jim fend off the infiltration of false teaching in September 2017, leading to his decision to preach “one of the most important sermons of my pastorate” in October 2017. He credited us privately with saving the church from a serious upheaval due to the threat of the false doctrine.

So therefore, we were unfairly demoted to “inactive” member status without our knowledge. And we were never afforded biblical due process to understand what was stealthily being done to us, since it was not handled properly by Pastor Jim himself, as it ought to have been. Yet we have continued to serve LBC up to this moment, funding the website ourselves where many research & discernment articles are housed, in order to provide a resource for LBC people.

Reader, are you going to let Pastor Jim “sentence to death” his own daughter for simply obeying his own teaching? If you do not act, that’s exactly what will happen.

(Commenters acknowledge by their participation that they have read both Parts 1 & 2 beforehand.)

What’s Wrong with LBC? Part 1

This article consists of Part 1 of our Open Letter to all current and former attenders/members of Lake Bible Church, as well as to anyone who has benefited from (Emeritus) Pastor Jim’s radio and books ministries, TFW and JAB. As we will explain in greater detail in Part 2, it is your responsibility as a member of the Body of Christ, based on his biblical teaching about holding one another accountable in right doctrine ( Listen to Colossians 3:16-17, from 12:22-13:30) to take immediate action. In order for you to fully understand the urgent circumstances facing Pastor Jim’s ministries and his family right now, you will need to read both Part 1 and Part 2.

As you may have noticed, we have periodically changed the title of our articles in order to hold different categories of leadership accountable (Senior Pastor, Elders, etc.). Now the focus of this article is on the congregation itself (and wider Christian community). So we will ask you below to carefully study two previous articles that we wrote in late 2022 (after 5 years of intensive research) about one of the greatest threat to our church: the targeted indoctrination of our children with the “Christian” LGBTQ+ agenda.

But first, we would like to explain why we felt compelled to undertake this massive project. Over the past three decades, as we explain in this article, Pastor Jim has tutored us privately in theology, both formally and informally, because of our inability to complete our seminary training in missions due to becoming disabled with M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis). Thus, we have used this training, at varying levels of involvement during different times, to assist Pastor Jim in each of his ministries (LBC, TFW and JAB) throughout the decades since we became members of LBC over 30 years ago.

The primary area in which Juli & I have served Pastor Jim has been in theology and discernment. As we wrote to the Elders in our 1/30/23 letter, p.6-7:

Over the decades since her dramatic improvement with her MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) and M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis) after her successful 1995 cancer treatment in Mexico, Juli & I were able to become involved in the ministry at Lake in various areas: Music, Teaching Sunday School, etc.

When I was able to return to work in 1996 due to the same treatments as Juli, I began teaching piano lessons, until various factors in both of our health got worse in 2013. At that time, the Lord clearly led me to switch my focus from teaching piano to taking over and running Pastor Jim’s books ministry… Juli & I devoted all of our available energy (literally, often just a matter of a few minutes/day) to revising and republishing the…books, and to completing new ones, for a total of five.

As you [know]…, we have become quite well-read in current theological issues as a result of our online research, done to help protect the flock at Lake, beginning in 2009. Then in 2015, [a women’s ministry leader] asked Jim if we could help her research the IF: Gathering, which we were happy to do.

It is through the extensive research that we have done over the past ~14 years for Jim’s books and TFW program editing that has enabled us to support all three ministries: LBC, radio & books in the area of theological discernment.

In addition, Pastor Jim commissioned us in 2013 with a massive project—to research and collate all of his TFW programs on key subjects of common interest into an easy-to-use guide for the website. This was completed, finally, in 2020.

The relevance of this historical information is to explain our extensive knowledge of what Pastor Jim has taught about most subjects, and also where those programs/sermons are located in his massive archives (TFW & LBC). He has often commented that we know what he has covered (subject-wise) in his sermons better than he does, since he has been preaching for nearly 60 years and has often repeated books during that time.

Over the years, then, we have interfaced Pastor Jim’s teaching and the information about false teachers that we have researched who have unfortunately infiltrated into the church. We have then communicated with him about which resources are no longer sound.

Next, we would like to explain the above subtitle: “You’re Flying the Gay Rainbow Flag over Your Building!” As you will discover from reading the 2-part series below, both Pastor Jim and the Board of Elders have failed to protect LBC from the dangerous LGBTQ+ agenda. You will discover that many of the popular parachurch ministries that churches have relied upon for many decades have been taken over by homosexual activists and propagandists who want to brainwash our children. And since Pastor Jim failed to take appropriate action in 2020, when we not only gave him this information but also gave him possible alternatives, our church has been openly partnering with evil (See Part 13 for passages such as 2 John 9-11 and others) and financially supporting now-heretical ministries. Hence the subtitle of the article, which was inspired by this picture from Lake’s website showing an actual rainbow over the building:

Therefore, after you read these two articles that we designed to inform Christians everywhere about this insidious danger, we will present the evidence about the failure of LBC’s leadership to protect our church from this heretical agenda.

https://help2needy.com/they-are-coming-for-your-kids-part-1/  25-minute read

https://help2needy.com/they-are-coming-for-your-kids-part-2/ 20-minute read

[By the way, the Christian discernment Substack channel, The Dissenter, republished these articles in September 2023. Also, we have nicknamed them, “Kids, Parts 1 & 2” for easier reference in the remainder of this article.]

Now that you have read these two articles, we will explain how and when Pastor Jim and the Board of Elders have failed to address this serious danger. This will provide further documentation of the inexplicable changes in Pastor Jim’s doctrine and behavior (that we have detailed in our previous 4 TFW articles) after his prior 56 ½ years of obedience (June 1963-January 2020).

We will cite again the opening of our first letter to the Board of Elders on 1/30/23 (bolding added):

Juli and I are writing to request an immediate investigation by the appropriate LBC elder(s) into Pastor Jim’s medical and spiritual competence to continue performing the role of Senior Pastor at Lake Bible Church. As we will explain, the reason for our urgent request is that we desperately want him to be able to remain at Lake. However, due to a new, unspecified medical condition, Pastor Jim began in 2015 to exhibit an uncharacteristic pattern of overt disobedience to his own teaching from God’s Word, both in his personal behavior and his teaching

As one might expect with a health-related problem, Pastor Jim’s disobedience was neither total nor uniform at the outset (from March 2015-Jan 2020). But according to LBC’s Constitution (p.16-17), a pastor may bring reproach upon Christ and the church by violating scriptural commands contained in these passages, among many:

1 Tim. 3:1-7, Phil. 2:15, Col. 4:5 and 1 Timothy 4:5 (this is a probable typo; 2 Tim. 4:5 was probably intended)

According to the Apostle Paul’s teaching in 1 Timothy, a pastor is to be an overseer of the doctrine and behavior of the church. In 3:1-2, he says:

1It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do. 2An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

And at the end of Paul’s second epistle to Timothy (4:5), he says:

“But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”

But in January 2020, Pastor Jim informed us through a trusted emissary that he was no longer healthy enough to supervise all of the doctrinal content being taught at LBC, as he had always done beforehand. He stated that he was now unable to handle the emotional pressure of holding LBC’s ministry leaders accountable for their strict adherence to God’s Word.  

This news represented a grave departure from Pastor Jim’s lifelong biblical commitment to prioritizing the teaching component (including correcting false doctrine) of pastoral ministry. In 1 Timothy 5:13-17, he explains:

@21:05, So here in chapter five, verse 17 and verse 18 will seal the case. The idea is that within the class of men who govern local bodies who are their shepherds, those who apply themselves diligently to preaching and teaching, those should be more amply supported than those not as intensively engaged in this work, hence our word, ‘honorarium,’ as a material symbol of honor. Now this bifurcation, what do I mean, this separation that’s referred to here, let those be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching, implying that some were not so involved. This bifurcation suggests that in the primitive organization of the local churches, there may have been those shepherds who were more focused on running and maintaining the churches than on teaching the church and devoting themselves rigorously to that ministry.

In fact, we still see that today, often times where a pastor is a better administrator of church life than a teacher or mentor in Christian faith and practice. The former pastor, who’s a good administrator of church life, is not without value, but the latter requires the most investment of time and does the church the most good in the long run. I’ve always said, as a pastor, in a church of any size, and mine is no mega church, but a church of any size, a pastor is the functional equivalent of a CEO as well as a shepherd. If I’m going to neglect one or the other, it’s going to be the CEO aspect. I’m going to be a shepherd first, God willing. Paul says, of those who excel at preaching and teaching, take good care of them, double care. For these are not weekend warriors, as the saying goes. By necessity, they have withdrawn themselves from the marketplace for the sake of your souls. So you, as a church, you allow them the freedom to do that. Honor them amply. That seems to me to be the spirit of his direction. And we should remember that. @23:16

And in 2 Timothy 1:13-18, Pastor Jim again stresses the crucial role of pastors and lay elders to protect the flock from false teaching:

@12:49, Then he tells Timothy, “Guard the deposit of the truth entrusted to you as a steward. Guard through the Holy Spirit, who indwells us, the treasure or good deposit which has been entrusted to you.” Here, the good deposit refers to the Gospel. Folks, it is not enough for us as ministers of Jesus Christ to adhere to the faith, the body of doctrine, the body of belief, once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3). It’s not enough for us as ministers also to teach it to others. This is a large part of our stewardship, to be sure, but another trust, another charge we have, is to be gatekeepers. And by that, I mean part of our responsibility, part of our stewardship, is to guard the gospel. And this is consistent with what was in the last verse (v.13), to guard the gospel or the good news from corruptions. Corruptions through devilish accretions or subtractions or also obfuscations that befog it.

As much as we Americans are conditioned to be positive, there is a negative side to our job as ministers of the Lord Jesus Christ. We, not just us pastors but elders or deacons or whatever your church leaders are called, we must be vigilant. We must always be on the lookout for predators and purveyors of false doctrine, and we must be ready to expose and rebuke their errors. Now, some people don’t like to hear that. They don’t want to hear anything negative. We can’t worry about that. We’ve got to do our job. Ends @14:27

Therefore, based on Pastor Jim’s consistent, lifelong teaching all throughout Scripture (including the above passages) on the responsibility of pastors to protect their flock from error (See also Pastor Jim’s Pastor’s Manual, p.173-190, #20, “Pathogens in the Pews,” and this article summarizing the key passages about the need for pastors to be vigilant regarding false teachers), he had just indicated to us by this statement that he was no longer medically or spiritually fit to hold the high office of Senior Pastor. Thus, he had just disqualified himself from the pastorate.

However, Juli & I would not allow Pastor Jim to abdicate his responsibility to provide doctrinal oversight, so we continued to monitor the LBC website for false teachers. A few months later, in early April, we alerted him about a children’s book for Easter that a staff member had posted on LBC’s website for parents to read to their children. It was written by Jared Kennedy, a pro-LGBTQ author for Russell Moore’s ERLC website, who had also recently penned (July 9, 2018) an article entitled, “What Do I Do if My Child Doesn’t Seem to Fit with Typical Gender Norms,” positively citing, three times, a known heretic, Dr. Nate Collins.

As we detailed at the end of Kids, Part 1, Collins was a key leader in the “Same-Sex Attraction” movement, having spent 15 years at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (SBTS) under the guidance of Drs. Albert Mohler and Russell Moore as a student, a teaching fellow, an instructor, and finally as a PhD recipient in 2017). Collins also was the co-founder of the perverted Revoice Conference (promoting “Celibate” Same-Sex relationships) in 2018 with Preston Sprinkle.

Pastor Jim insisted that Kennedy’s book be taken down from the website, but the staff member simply replaced it with another heretic’s children’s book instead, TGC’s Kevin DeYoung.

Then we wrote Pastor Jim on April 13, 2020, “So there’s no way that he [the staff member] can plead innocence about who these people are [referring to other false teachers that he had associated with and publicly endorsed, such as Trevin Wax, the Alistair Begg family, and Thabiti Anyabwile]. And if he was just ignorant of what he had promoted [Kennedy’s Easter book for children] and sorry for it, why hasn’t he taken down The Gospel Project … [or] LifeWay’s VBS, and promoted yet another false teacher, Kevin DeYoung, just in the last week?” “[He] is promoting pro-gay, pro-NAR heretics by using these materials.”

So while DeYoung’s popular 2015 book on homosexuality, What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?, pretends to take a conservative stance in the main body of the work, the only resources he lists in the appendix are those of the pro-LGBTQ movement, not the biblical conservatives. In addition, DeYoung clearly accepts the worldly psychological concept of a “sexual orientation,” stating that it is not addressed in the Bible. While he condemns homosexual acts as inherently sinful, he does not do the same for the “orientation” or the desire itself, calling it simply “disordered.” By 2020, DeYoung had become a key player, and eventual successor, in the pro-LGBTQ wing of the PCA.

As you know from reading our articles above, Kids, Parts 1&2, this is the “Same-Sex Attraction” Trojan Horse heresy being peddled by the TGC, ERLC, and much of the SBC, including LifeWay publishing.

However, when we presented this information about DeYoung to Pastor Jim, he refused to take this children’s book down from the LBC website.

This was inexplicable to us, since Pastor Jim had just recently denounced proponents of the SSA heresy, as we quoted him in Kids, Part 1:

“Along with that, they [the ‘Christian’ advocates for the LGBTQ+ ‘community’] condone the effort to “naturalize” homosexuality and to declare homosexual affinities just another example of human diversity rather than another sad example of the whole garden of human perversities. Some of them are so anxious to placate the culture and court its affirmation that they even come forward, if you can believe it, with proclamations of repentance and confession for their historic sins for doing injury to the “alphabet community” with their “judgmental” stance inherited from the past (meaning the Scriptures). This biblical stance proclaims that so-called same-sex attraction is a lust to be progressively mortified by the Spirit working through the Word, just as other sinful desires should be. Notice that it is a temptation to be rejected, not proof of an unchangeable orientation. Yet I fear we are not done with these ever-evolving travesties. The same cultural sycophants can be expected, as it gathers momentum and on the same specious logic, to jump up in support of normalizing pedophilia. It’s coming.”

Then in early May 2020, we noticed in the LBC Bulletin that pro-LGBTQ advocate Ed Stetzer (whom you read about in Kids, Part 2 above) had been tapped by AWANA as a speaker for their free online Child Discipleship Forum :

 

So we followed Pastor Jim’s preferred procedure for bringing problems to his attention. He frequently says, “Don’t just tell me what the problem is; come up with a solution as well, if possible.” So we did just that, contacting a respected pastor and obtaining two viable alternatives to replace the AWANA curriculum that were compatible with Pastor Jim’s Reformed theology.

However, when we passed along this information to Pastor Jim, he merely indicated that he had forwarded it to the appropriate person, and we never heard about it again. It has now been 4 ½ years, and LBC is still funding this pro-LGBTQ+ “ministry” (AWANA) to the tune of $100/child per year (2022 figures).

Another infiltration of the LGBTQ+ agenda we described in Kids, Parts 2 was LifeWay’s The Gospel Project (Sunday School Curriculum), announced by the LBC youth staff in September 2017 (begin listening @1:02:00, listing of resources for parents @1:14:49, mention of The Gospel Project Curriculum @1:15:37; @1:16:33, Parent forum with ERLC’s “Christ-Centered Parenting” (led by pro-LGBTQ Russell Moore); 1:18:17, Gospel Project Curriculum is the same for all ages).

(Here is the archived link, if video fails to play: https://web.archive.org/web/20240505015100/ )

Not only does LifeWay itself promoting pro-homosexual resources (including children’s books!) from “Celibate Gay priest” (and now Associate Pastor at Russell Moore’s church, Immanuel NashvilleSam Allberry and his fellow leader, “Pastor to Pastors” Ray Ortlund (who recently endorsed Kamala Harris for President, a woman who is anti-Christian and pro-abortion all the way until birth), but The Gospel Project itself was co-founded by pro-LGBTQ activists Ed Stetzer and Trevin Wax (as detailed in Kids, Part 2). Remember that Matthew 7:18 states, “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.”

So then, is this the type of leader whom you want to create your children’s “Christian” curriculum? Well, that’s what LBC continues to teach, to this day:

 

Also, why was Pastor Jim now willing to accept LifeWay resources to be used all over his church after just recently challenging SBTS President Dr. Albert Mohler in 2018 to speak out against the heretical publisher (in this email excerpt below)?

From: Jim Andrews <jima@lakebiblechurch.com>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 10:40 AM
To: presoffice@sbts.edu
Subject: Your wrath of God article

Dr. Mohler –

[Pastor Jim wrote this challenge to Dr. Mohler in paragraph 3 (a total of 60 words) of this email to use his voice and influence against LifeWay.]

Therefore, since Pastor Jim abdicated his responsibility to fully supervise the doctrinal content of all LBC ministries in early 2020, and the Board of Elders failed to hold him accountable for his own personal sinful behavior (as described in our communications with them) in 2023-2024, it is now the duty of those who care about the direction of Lake Bible Church to hold their leaders (both current and former) accountable for these decisions and to insist upon biblically sound replacements. (By the way, the Reformed resources we had located could have been used to replace both the AWANA and The Gospel Project curricula.)

We will give further details on what this means and how it should be done biblically in the next article, “What’s Wrong with Lake Bible Church? Part 2: You’re Enabling My Dad to Endanger My Life!” 

No comments will occur except on part 2

What’s Wrong with LBC’s Elders? Part 1

As Juli & I detailed in our previous articles, “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim? Parts 12 & 13,” not only has Pastor Jim refused to be held to the same biblical standard of accountability that he has previously prescribed for himself and all servants of God (see sermon transcript excerpt from 1 Samuel 12:1-5 at the beginning of Part 13), but he then subsequently violated man’s (civil) law on September 27, 2023 by taking possession of the websites (www.thefinalwordradio.com and www.jimandrewsbooks.com) that he no longer owned.

(This fact was confirmed by my IP [Intellectual Property] lawyer, who examined Pastor Jim’s claim of current ownership based on the evidence he himself provided, and concluded that his claim was not valid, since he had legally transferred the sites to me years prior. My lawyer then directed me to write Jim a legal letter specifying why his claims were invalid, which I did, sending it by legal courier on October 13, 2023, and receiving Jim’s written confirmation of its receipt the same day. Yet even after receiving this information, Jim refused to repent for breaking the civil law and failed to turn over my legal property.)

The main purpose of Pastor Jim’s unlawful act on September 27, 2023, then, was to take down the Part 12 article (which exposed his hypocrisy) from the websites so that nobody could read it. (This is reminiscent of King Jehoiakim in Jeremiah 36:1-26.)

Yet Pastor Jim did not stop there. When I lawfully regained control of both websites on April 4, 2024, he continued to violate man’s (civil) law by ignoring his civic duty as a good citizen, defiantly flaunting the law and demanding that I still give them back to him. Further, in order to cover up his prior unlawful act, he then committed an even more serious civil-law violation, as you will see below, on Sunday morning, April 7, 2024. As they say in politics, “The coverup is always worse than the crime,” and this case is no exception (though this is a civil offense, not criminal).

Here is the relevant portion of the transcript:

Pastor Jim Andrews @21:33

Many of you this past Thursday received a hijacked Final Word (that’s radio, for those of you who don’t know) newsletter from my estranged son-in-law alleging that I, your pastor, has veered off course into unsound doctrine, and urging your prayers for my repentance. This unfortunate situation, unbeknownst to most of you, developed about 6 years ago. It’s been killing Olsie, who, as you will notice, is not here today, who most of that time has been denied physical access to our daughter, Juli.

This is just another tactic from a once-unthinkable source to knock me out of the box. As long as I’ve been in this church, now 34 years, I go through this some way or other. My conscience in all that I have done is totally clear in this matter, and God knows it.

So, as much as we have been saddened by this family rupture, I’m confident the Lord has our back, and we’ve seen that, and it’s full steam ahead for me. I thank all of you who contacted us in shock and dismay. All I can say is that 37 years of unbelievable suffering and isolation, I think, have apparently finally broken the mind of this brilliant but now-pitiful shadow of his former self, so that Paul is no longer the amazing person, and I do mean that, amazing, for 30-31 years. Unfortunately, neither is my wife, whose spirit and mind he has broken with his regular onslaught of mental tortures.

Most of you know this, I think, what I’m telling you now: Olsie is in cognitive decline. And some of you have noticed it. I don’t know when I’ve heard her laugh. Our elders and staff have known about this situation for some years now. I’ll ask Mike Sheffield, our Elder Chairman, to share with you a few words. Ends @24:15

In order to keep this article brief, due to the great urgency of the moment, we will primarily deal with just the last phrase of Pastor Jim’s first paragraph (see bolded above). Juli & I are asking everyone at LBC, all listeners to TFW, and all JAB readers to pay close attention to this information,  and take immediate & decisive action.

Shockingly, in his remarks above, Pastor Jim made a cruel and false allegation against me, Paul, in his phrase, “who most of that time has been denied physical access to our daughter, Juli.” The clear implication from the preceding context, as well as the entire context of his remarks is that I, his “estranged son-in-law” have somehow, for most of the past six years, denied Olsie “physical access to [her] daughter, Juli.”

The situation is very medically complex, so Juli & I will not attempt to explain the details here. However, this false allegation, as well as the many others contained in Pastor Jim’s remarks, constitute an unlawful act of defamation. These are not merely hurtful lies said in the heat of anger; they have been deceptively crafted to destroy my reputation and shift the blame from the true source of guilt. In the Lord’s providence, it just so happens that I have been informally studying defamation and free speech law over the past 3 ½ years in the course of following current events in the news.

Therefore, Pastor Jim has compounded his initial spiritual disobedience (by failing to listen to the godly rebuke of his faithful daughter & son-in-law on September 25, 2023) by committing an act of civil wrong two days later, on the 27th. Then, when these unlawful actions were exposed on April 4, 2024, he followed this up with an even more egregious civil offense, defamation of character, against a trusted and disabled member of his own family.

However, in his remarks above, Pastor Jim committed another, even more unbiblical and unethical wrong in the process of making his defamatory allegations. By choosing to make these false allegations about the denial of access to Juli and the “mental tortures” inflicted by me upon his wife Olsie, the alleged victim, without her being present in the Sunday service, as well as without her knowledge or consent, he was providing yet one more example of the very wicked type of behavior that Jim had been exhibiting since 2015, which Juli & I had outlined for the Board of Elders in our first letter, dated 1/30/23 (very brief excerpts below):

Dear [Chairman of the Elder Board] Mike [Sheffield],

Juli and I are writing to request an immediate investigation by the appropriate LBC elder(s) into Pastor Jim’s medical and spiritual competence to continue performing the role of Senior Pastor at Lake Bible Church. As we will explain, the reason for our urgent request is that we desperately want him to be able to remain at Lake. However, due to a new, unspecified medical condition, Pastor Jim began in 2015 to exhibit an uncharacteristic pattern of overt disobedience to his own teaching from God’s Word, both in his personal behavior and his teaching. This escalated in August 2020, when he refused, for some reason, to practice biblical repentance as he had always done prior, and he has remained in that state of unrepentant disobedience ever since.

First, let me set the proper context for the relationship we have had with Jim & Olsie for our entire married life. The best way to do this is to share with you an excerpt with you from a letter that we wrote to them back in July 2021. Afterwards, we will explain why we had to write the letter.

“Dear Jim & Olsie,

Juli and I want to thank you first of all for the loving support you’ve given us since the onset of our M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis) disease in 1987, when we were in our early twenties. You have been the best parents and in-laws we could ever have hoped for. You have helped us financially and physically to be able to survive all these years, with Juli being bedridden for the vast majority of that period, and with me being partially disabled.”

…But as alluded to in the excerpt from the letter above, due to an unspecified health problem that became manifest in 2015, Pastor Jim has been becoming more and more emotionally & spiritually abusive toward the weakest members of his family: his wife Olsie, and his totally disabled, bedridden daughter & now-totally disabled son-in-law.

The reason why Jim’s abusive treatment of Olsie (speaking for her without her knowledge or consent in an untruthful way about the son-in-law she loves, and who loves her) is highly relevant is because it illustrates perfectly the subtitle of this article, “The Evil Consequences of Lack of [Pastoral] Accountability.” Obviously, had the Board of Elders taken seriously the “innumerable letters and documents from Paul” (as they were referred to by the Chairman) that began over 1 1/2 years ago, this would never have happened.

Juli was so upset about her father’s inexplicable and hateful actions towards Paul that she decided to raise the issue with Olsie in a 34-minute phone call on July 3, 2024, beginning at 4:34 p.m. PT (Olsie was in Florida).

The portion of the conversation pertaining to this issue starts at approx. timestamp 8:30 and lasts for about 4 minutes. During that time, when Juli informed Olsie about what Pastor Jim had said, she denied any knowledge of it, twice, at two different times. In fact, Juli repeated the information about four times, and at no time did Olsie state that she agreed with what Jim had said, nor did she at any time disagree with Juli’s protests about the false allegations.

Thus, Juli & I insist that Pastor Jim publicly and permanently (as specified on p.12 of our 1/30/23 letter to the Board) retract all of his defamatory remarks from April 7, 2024, as well as all others previous and since, including those that have been broadcast over the airwaves on The Final Word, posted online in any venue, or sent in written form to TFW supporters and listeners, in both personal and ministry communications, and most importantly of all, repent of his sinful behavior and seek immediate medical attention for the condition(s) afflicting him.

In addition, Pastor Jim must allow Olsie to testify on the record about his public defamatory statements by listening for the first time ever to the entirety of his 4/7/24 remarks at an investigative hearing, to be held at Paul & Juli’s home (to enable all the relevant parties to be present). Therefore, we are asking everyone who reads this article (even if you do not attend LBC) to contact Elder Board Chairman, Mike Sheffield, to urge the Elders to fulfill their biblical and constitutional responsibilities in this matter. His email is m3gutguy@mac.com.

Juli & I love Pastor Jim & Olsie. We want him to continue to minister as he enters this new phase of his life (as he described it @1:38:00-1:39:00, writing and preaching on The Final Word,  but he must be obedient to God’s Word “in everything,” as he noted from the example of Moses’s disobedience at the start of his mission to Egypt, in these two sermons in Exodus:

https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/exodus-421-26/

https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/exodus-426-31/

Paul & Juli Grose

Jim Andrews (1990, 2024) to LBC: “Consider Your Ways”

Two Key Sermons from Haggai about Misplaced Priorities

As the Pastoral Search Committee and Board of Elders prepare our church (Lake Bible Church in Lake Oswego, OR) to call a new Senior Pastor, Juli & I thought it would be beneficial for all who have been blessed by Pastor Jim’s 34-year ministry at Lake, T.F.W. and J.A.B. to hear a key sermon from when he first began.

But first, here is the April 28, 2024 announcement by John Dotson (Pastor of Men and Student Ministries) and Mike Sheffield, Elder Board Chairman (from 1:23:00-1:29:24):

Pastor John:

“For 34-some years plus, God raised up for this congregation a man that was dedicated and faithful not only to Him but to a flock of people called a congregation. His words have meant great things in people’s lives. The very motto that we use here as a church, ‘A Place where People Care and Truth Matters,’ has reflected over this whole generation, not just with you, but with those that God has raised here and now have gone beyond to other places. It echoes throughout the world, ‘A Place where People Care and Truth Matters.’

“That verse (Phil. 1:6) says that God’s Word work will be completed until the day of Christ Jesus. Well after 34-some years, the Lord has tarried. He hasn’t returned. He will, and He could.

“Our Board of Elders, through prayer, much prayer and much conversation, have decided that it is time to at least begin the search for the man that God is preparing, just as God prepared Jim Andrews for this congregation, for this time, for the man who would then  come and follow and take this ministry on the same path for not only us but for the congregation that will be birthed through us into the next generation.

“Now here’s where we’re fortunate: Jim is still our pastor. Jim will be our pastor until that time that God brings in the man that he will hand the mantle off to. We will follow his leadership , we will be encouraged, we will be blessed, and our relationship with Christ will thrive just as it has for 34-plus years because of the heart and the dedication Jim Andrews has to his relationship to Christ and to the work of God that Jim so eloquently declares to us each week.

“It is our desire, both as a staff and as Elders, that you begin to pray. Pray for that man that God is preparing right now. It is not going to be, “Hey, we are next week, and here’s the replacement.” That’s not gonna happen. It’s going to take time. We are not, as Mike has said, going to get ahead of the Holy Spirit.

“We’re going to trust. We’re going to move forward because Christ hasn’t returned. And there are people out there who need Jesus Christ even at the completion of Jim’s work, whenever that will be.

“We’ve had a mission. It doesn’t change. We need to pray and ask God’s guidance, we ask God’s intervention for the next generation for the spiritual children for the spiritual grandchildren who will come through the work of Lake Bible Church until Jesus Christ returns.”

Chairman Mike:

“Yes, John is right. We as elders have been talking, praying, praying, praying, and talking and have come to the conclusion that to maintain the unity that Jim has been talking about, and not only unity but continuity in this congregation. We think it best to start the search, however long that is going to take. Jim has written to me and said that he will remain Senior Pastor until such a replacement is found, which I’m thankful for. And I think we should all be thankful for.

“But we didn’t want it to be kind of, you know, behind closed doors and things like that. We will be searching, I mean, I kind of anticipate this as a long, drawn-out process, but as John said, my desire and all the hearts of the elders desire is to not get ahead of the Lord on this. Not get in front of the Spirit. and it’s taken a long time to come to this conclusion, but I think it will take a long time to change also, but we’re asking that you continue to pray, continue to put your trust in the Lord, continue to pray that Jim continues to speak the truth as he has for 34 years and will continue to do so as long as the Lord leaves him here.

“We just appreciate that we have a pastor that we can love, that we can respect, that we can respect his preaching, we never have to doubt that what we’re hearing is the truth, and anybody that follows him is going to have some very large shoes to fill, and those will be criteria that will be out front. And so we just ask, as elders, that you all pray that we will continue to pray, and as this process moves along, we’ll give updates as need be.

“We’ll probably have a little more detail updated as to what the process is exactly going to be at the business meeting on June 30.”  1:29:34

 

Now here is a portion of that key sermon from 1990, followed by highlights from a recent The Final Word program (2024) from the same book of Haggai.

Pastor Jim began preaching weekly at Lake on March 18, 1990, and by April 22, he had been called to become Lake’s Interim Pastor. In that Sunday sermon, he began a 3-part series on The Importance of Rightly Placed Priorities:

@21:29 “Let me try to set the background and here’s what I’d like to show you from Haggai. I want to show you from Haggai, in fact, I’m going to be talking about this general theme for the next three Sundays: the importance of a rightly placed priorities. I’m talking now about the danger of misplaced priorities. But I’d like you to see my thesis illustrated in Haggai in three respects. I’d like for you to see the timeless, the timeless problem, I like for you to see the timeless consequence. And I’d like for you to see the timeless cure.”

(For the full, lightly edited transcript, click here:)

For Juli & me, the sermons that Jim preached that first year as Interim Pastor (1990-1991) have much more than mere sentimental value to us. Of course, we were grateful that, as Jim preached every week, he shared with the congregation (listen from about 6:00-8:15) about our disabling disease, now known as M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis). Since we had been unable to attend church for the previous year, we were grateful for any contact with fellow Christians. Olsie brought us Jim’s messages each week on cassette tape, and we listened intently. Our severe suffering created in us a hunger for God’s Word like never before. So we were being fed by and cared for at the same time by LBC.

Also, since we intended to build a custom, environmentally safe home on the west side of town (near LBC) that would accommodate Juli’s multiple chemical sensitivities (MCS), we gradually began considering Lake to be our own church.

The outpouring of love and support for Jim & Olsie, and for us, was quite overwhelming, as Jim describes in this Haggai sermon (listen @6:45). A few years later, we officially became members at Lake.

So again, we would like for all LBC members and attenders (and TFW listeners and JAB readers) to hear and read excerpts from this key message, as well as a recent TFW program from the same book of Haggai.

4/22/90 Sunday Morning Sermon:

After explaining the historical background of the exiles who had returned from Babylon but disobediently failed to complete the Temple, Pastor Jim explains that the Lord gave the prophet Haggai a message for them: “Consider your ways” (1:5):

@29:27, “Now people, I don’t speak profanely. I’m trying to speak graphically. So I’m speaking almost literally. If I would translate that, what He would say to some of us, now we’re talking about priorities, not the things in themselves. “I don’t have time to do that. Those things are nice. But I’ve got to get my investment portfolio in order. I mean, I’ve got 6 kids, understand, I mean, we’ve got a business, you have to take care of business, you understand that. The trouble with you creatures is you’ve never been. You have to take care of these things. And, well, you have to have Volvos, BMW’s, and Mercedes, and you have to dress for success. You understand that? And you have to have a house. And I’ve got to have four, five bedroom and a three car garage. And that stuff costs money. Do you understand what I’m trying to say, Jim? I mean, I want to serve the Lord. But I have to do it on my terms so that my convenience, because life is life. I’m a victim of the tyranny of the urgent and these things have to be done.

Now do you hear the Lord’s answer? The problem now let’s identify it clearly, or the problem is a timeless problem not just endemic to their day, not just a native or originating in their day but existing yesterday, but this

They were putting their personal priority, the lust for their creature comforts, for their own financial security well ahead of the demands of the worship service. That’s flat-out what they were doing. And that problem is still with us. And when that happens, life begins to become loose at the bolts, and life starts heading south. And I’ll tell you the reason, I’ll tell you the reasons we don’t wake up to it.”

[Later in the sermon, Pastor Jim makes an important caveat regarding how to interpret difficult circumstances in our lives:]

@36:49, Now, friends, I’ve got to qualify, it’s very important. I don’t want you to hear me say that when we get our agenda right, we get our priorities rightly placed, that’s the end of the problem. I don’t want you to hear me saying that if you have any of those kinds of problems, it is because of misplaced priorities. In fact, sometimes that is emphatically not the case. Because what often happens when people start to do right, when they start the designs, when they do get their agenda in order, some things can go very, very wrong, because there is an Enemy out there. We call it, I hesitate to use this terminology because of some who use it and what they mean by it, but the Bible does talk about spiritual warfare

But there are other things that will come together. There are other things that will not come together, they will not work out. Because we’re working on a collision course with God, we’re treating God as if he’s not there. And we claim Christ as our Savior, but we’re ignoring him as the Lord of our priorities.

[Later, Pastor Jim concludes:]

38:49  And I’m asking you to do what the prophet Haggai said, “consider your ways.” Evaluate, and if necessary, it’s not necessary in every case, but if necessary, evaluate, those priorities…

40:30: God will honor those who will honor Him (1 Sam. 2:30). But when we treat Him as if He is not, and we try to live life on our own agenda, and ignore him, do you know what he does? Here’s a word for that. He sabotages. Literally, that’s what he did to these people. He absolutely sabotages.

So what’s the answer [for misplaced priorities]? The answer, the cure. It’s simple. God is a gracious God. We’re an erring people. We’re a people who are weak, and we are falling, and he understands our fallenness. Our heavenly Father does not desire to beat up on us. He desires merely to correct and to bless us. And what he calls for us to do is to sit down and to consider our ways. And considering our ways, if necessary, evaluate, and to say to ourselves, “Heavenly Father, first things first, a lot of secondary things have begun to rule my life. I’m not going to let that happen anymore by the grace of God. I see this and this and this. I’m in business, but I’m going to put You first.” Ends @43:00

Now we’d like to share highlights (the full, lightly edited transcript is here) from the final TFW program (Application) from the Haggai series (recorded in 2018, aired in 2018 and re-posted in 2024)

@7:25, 1) God doesn’t want simply more of your life, more of your time, more of your energy, more of your money. My friends, God wants to be first, period. And if we expect to be blessed by God in the ways that God is willing to bless us, then we’ve got to get our priorities in order. And a lot of people don’t seem to understand that…

@8:11, 2) A second lesson that we can learn from these words of Haggai is this. That all the religiosity, all of the ceremony, all the ritual, all the outward service of God in the world is of no account in God’s eyes if we are defiled on the inside. For us, this life is not about God giving us happiness, it is about us gaining, by the grace of God through the work of His Spirit, holiness. What God wants of you and me is to be is a holy people. The road to happiness, in the biblical sense of the idea, runs straight through holiness. That is God’s first priority. I do not mean that God does not care that you’re happy. Of course he does. He wants you to be happy. But I’m telling you happiness runs through holiness…

@10:25… But when the outward things are not accompanied by the spirit that is supposed to attend them, they’re abominations in God’s sight. God really wants at the end of the day, obedience, heart obedience, and not just the outward performance of religious rituals.

Well, we see this in Haggai, that God wants holiness. And if we’re defiled on the inside, everything that we touch is defiled: all of our ceremonies, all of our rituals, all of our so-called sacrifices. If they’re not attended by a Holy Spirit, then they’re trashed.

@11:05, 3) That brings me to a third point. And we see this in chapter two of Haggai, where Haggai asks the priests for a ruling concerning ritual law and then makes an application of it. And that is this: pollution is much easier to spread than holiness. Thomas V Moore, in his little book on the Minor Prophets, has made this very trenchant comment, “One drop of filth will defile a vase of water; many drops of water will not purify a vase of filth.” Let’s remember that. Pollution is much easier to spread than holiness.

@11:55, 4) This brings me to a fourth application of the things that we see in Haggai, the Prophet: No amount of religious ceremonies or rituals, no matter how appropriate in themselves (I’m thinking in modern terms, baptism as appropriate, observing communion is appropriate, attending church is appropriate; “Neglect, not the assembling of yourselves together and so much the more, don’t neglect it, as you see the day the day of the Lord approaching, were taught, and Hebrews chapter 10, verse 25.” All of these things are appropriate in and of themselves.)

But no amount of religious ceremony or rituals, no matter how appropriate in themselves, can make one right who is polluted by willful disobedience to God’s commands. People delude themselves in that way. We can go to church, we can pray up a storm. But if we’re lifting up defiled hands, unholy hands, the careful observance of these rituals does not make us right. It cannot compensate for that.

[Illustration:] I remember years ago seems like another lifetime when I was in my first church out of seminary. I had a man on that church who was a deacon, it was a Baptist church, what are called elders and most other churches were called deacons in that church. He was a major pain in the differential, you know what I mean?

But like many of his type, he was a man whose hands were defiled. He was not really a good man, and he was unfit for his office. But the deacons were deacons for life, so he had tenure, so to speak, and there was no getting rid of him and I had to deal with him and some others of his own ilk.

But boy, was he rigorous about the Lord’s Supper. He was not rigorous about personal holiness, but people like that sometimes will compensate. And they make their reputation as a person of piety by being very tight and rigorous on matters of ritual. Boy, you’ve got to baptize by immersion. And I believe in baptism by immersion.

But you would think that heaven was going to riot if you’re baptized any other way. When it came to communion, if you offered communion, as I did one Sunday, to a man who had, this was unbelievable, who had just received Christ, but he hadn’t become a member of our church yet. Oh, did that rattle his cage, and he accosted me outside the church after the service, “How come you offered that man communion when he wasn’t even a member of the church?” And I said, “Brother, I do believe if the Lord Jesus Christ were there, he wouldn’t have been the least bit concerned about whether the man was a member of our church or not, is only concerned about whether he was a member of the kingdom of God. And when that man came to Christ today and confess Christ before this people and sat down on the front row, I asked you to serve him because now he has a brother in the Lord. Well, that seems obvious, I’m sure to virtually everybody out there who hears what I’m saying.

But some people don’t get it. They do not understand that no amount of religious ceremony or rituals can make one right. That’s what this man didn’t understand about himself, a man polluted by willful disobedience to God’s command, but he tried to compensate by being very legalistic about all of these details of church ritual and church membership. A lot of nonsense.

@15:37, 5) Now, I’ll make a fifth point of application of Haggai. When things go wrong or haywire in our lives, folks, the first thing we ought to do, and very often, the last thing that many do, is what Haggai says twice in his first message, “Consider our ways.” “Consider your ways,” the Lord said. We need to consider our ways, consider the possibility that the Lord may be firing a shot across our bow, chastening, we call it, to draw our attention to unfinished business that needs our prompt attention. That’s a good thing.

Very often, what we’re going through is just testing. The Lord tests His people, we see it all through the scriptures. We say Jesus testing his disciples. He tests the church, that is good. Because in the end, it strengthens our faith.

But lots of times, there’s something going on in our lives. There’s an uncleanness, there’s a defilement, there’s disobedience. It may be disobedience by way of commission; it may be disobedience by the way of omission. But whatever it is, it’s something that we may be ignoring. It’s something that we may not be fully conscious of. And the Lord is shaking us up and rattling our cage a little bit.

And I don’t know about you, but in my case, I think, I can’t remember all cases, but it has been rather a habit with me when things go wrong, and I think it’s a good habit, is to first of all, say, “Lord, is there something I’m doing? Is there something that is displeasing to You? Am I out of line, out of alignment with Your will in some way? And is this or that or whatever it is, is this a message that You’re sending me so that I will be alerted, and I will wake up and see things in a different light?”

Sometimes they’re just outright scandal in our lives and things start breaking apart. And the Lord is sending a message, saying, “This is not right. This is reprehensible. This is an abomination in My sight.”

“What Lord?”

And does He say, “Consider your ways. What about this? What about that?”

Folks, we need to go there, a lot of people never do. They’re just not properly introspective spiritually. And they don’t have a Haggai standing right there speaking with the voice of God, but we do have the Word of God. And if we’re in the Word of God, and we do have the Spirit of God inside us, and the Spirit of God works through the Word to make us alert to these things, when we have eyes to see and ears to hear when we want to please God but may not be doing so.

So I say again, when things go wrong or haywire in our lives, the first thing we ought to do, but very often, the last thing many do, is to consider our ways and to ask ourselves the question, if the Lord just may be firing a shot across our bow, to draw attention to unfinished business that needs our prompt attention, and eventually when and you ask, the Lord will show it to you.

And if it’s not there, you examine your conscience, you examine your ways before the Lord, the Lord will communicate that to you also. He’ll do it through his Word, He will do it through His Spirit, or He will do it through both. Or he will do it through righteous, pious friends or others, who the Spirit of God will use to assure you that the things that you might be too hard on yourselves about are not, in fact, the issue at all.

But that’s a good process for all of us. It keeps us squaring the books at the end of the day, so to speak.

@19:30, 6) Now another point of application, number six, if God has left us a clear and unequivocal promise, and I do emphasize clear and unequivocal promise, we ought to run boldly with it against all contradictions, providing we are certain we have met the stipulations. Here’s an example. God has given us a promise; in fact, our Lord Jesus gave it to us at the end of Matthew chapter six. He said, speaking to His disciples, warning them against getting all caught up in all of the worry traps that so many people get embedded in, worrying about money, worrying about food, worrying about house payments, worried about car payments, and we can understand easily how people go there, especially if a man or woman is out of a job or both, why that wouldn’t be an anxiety…

But our Lord tried to calm our fears, and He told us, “That’s what the Gentiles, that’s where the pagans go with these things. My advice to you,” the Lord Jesus said, “is do this, Seek ye first the kingdom of heaven. That is, Seek first the rule of God in your life. You make that ‘Job One.’  You make that your priority, and all of these things that you need, and I emphasize need, and all these things that people tend to worry about instead of seeking first the kingdom of God, these things that you need will be added unto you. That’s a promise. Do not fear,” the Lord says, “I am with you, My Spirit is with you.”…

@22:26, 7) Which brings up a seventh point: In difficult circumstances, all we really need to know to get through it is this: “I am with you,” says the Lord, My Spirit is abiding in your midst.” And in our case, His spirit is not only in the midst of us as a church, but His Spirit is abiding in us. “Therefore, do not fear. Do not crumble like a cookie; walk through the obstacles, continuously putting one foot in front of the other in the blind spots.” It’s okay to say Lord, “I don’t know what’s going on. It’s okay to say, “Lord, I trust you that you are with me, even though it doesn’t seem like you’re with me. I trust You to take care of me even though at the moment, it’s not apparent that You are. The Lord is good with that. Just trust Him. “I am with you.” And that ought to be enough to light our fires and to carry us through.

I close with this: God is never pleased with us, my friends when we allow his rightful place, which is first place in our lives, to be usurped by our own selfish agenda. When we do that, when we drift into that territory, we can expect the Lord to challenge our priorities in one way or another. And that’ll usually involve some complicating of our lives, and probably some pain, probably involved that until we get on the right page. It was with these folk, and the Lord has not changed. So let’s remember these things and benefit by them.

Friends, thank you for listening and reading. Please pray for our church as we select a new Senior Pastor.

Paul & Juli Grose

What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim Part 13

How to hold your pastor accountable when others won’t

In order for the reader to understand this article, it is necessary to first read “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim? Part 12.” The purpose of this post is to update the reader on the developments since the last article was posted on 9/25/23.

We would like to begin with a quote from Pastor Jim’s sermon from 1 Samuel 12:1-5 (found at the end of Part 12), which describes Samuel’s Valedictory Address.

Here’s a key excerpt (begins @7:35):

“And that is precisely what Samuel does on this occasion. So he steps boldly before this convocation, and he asks, before he begins to tell the people what God has put on his heart for them:

‘Is there anyone here who has any indictment to bring against me? Do any here allege any immoral or ethical wrong against me in the conduct of my office? Do you challenge my integrity on any account?

‘If so, I want you to stand up and bear witness right now, that is, I want you to come forward and I want you to make your case before the living God, before the king as earthly judge, and see if the evidence of wrongdoing stands up to scrutiny. Speak now or forever hold your peace,’ as is often said at a wedding ceremony.

‘And having settled my legacy of integrity, now, I want us to talk turkey, I have earned the right to speak to you about the mess you’ve made of things. And I’m going to tell you how to put things back on track again.’

“Let me ask you a question: If you were to die today, what would be your chief legacy?

Ask yourself, as I have to ask myselfcould you stand before the people of God and your closest associates and boldly invite friends and foe alike to make their case in the clear light of day before fair-minded men and a holy God?

“That should be your ambition. It’s certainly mine.” Ends 8:50

Unfortunately, when Pastor Jim received our legitimate questions (emailed July, 2023) about his decision to partner with witchcraft-endorsing publisher, Xulon Press, he did not respond as he had previously vowed to in that sermon (by welcoming the scrutiny of those family members and friends closest to him, in order to preserve his godly reputation).  

As a result of this, Pastor Jim was also disobeying his own teaching from another passage, Galatians 2:7-21. He was being hypocritical in the same that the Apostle Peter and Barnabas were, but not being a total hypocrite (i.e., a false believer).

Begins@ 10:35 “And this is a case where Paul stood up to Peter and corrected him. Now I was making a distinction between being a hypocrite and hypocritical, and that’s what Paul, in this confrontation with Peter, accused him of being, was hypocritical.

“One’s a hypocrite when we do not actually believe what we claim to believe, when we only pretend to live the way we are supposed to live, when we act on Sunday like a Christian and live the rest of the week as a worldling. It’s leading a double life with a hidden dark side that belies our profession of Christ. That’s being a hypocrite.

“Peter was being hypocritical. That’s not good, but it was a lot less serious. One is hypocritical when occasionally or in some specific area of Christian faith, principles and practice, we do not measure up to what we profess. Our own practice is not consistent in some matters with the principles that we profess to adhere to.” Ends @11:25

So then, what principles was Pastor Jim being hypocritical about? As already explained in Part 12, he has rightly warned all throughout his many decades in pastoral ministry about the doctrinal compromise of the “Christian” publishing industry. They care more about profits than being prophetic, and they will sell heretical books to meet their bottom line, if necessary.

However, based on Jim’s 2023 decision to partner with a witchcraft-endorsing “Christian” publisher, he was now invalidating his own teaching from his entire ministry about the great sin of partnering with false teachers.

In order to refresh the reader’s memory, here is a series of programs already listed in Part 12, with a new one added (Matthew 28:19). So then, after a brief explanation and excerpt from that sermon, we will develop this principle a bit more.

The Sinful Practice of Partnering with False Teachers:

2 John, two programs:

https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/2-john-5-10/

https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/2-john-11-13/

Matthew 13:24-43, November 8, 2020

https://www.lakebiblechurch.com/wp-content/uploads/sermons/audio/2020/11/2138.mp3

Matthew 28:19, May 8, 2022

https://www.lakebiblechurch.com/wp-content/uploads/sermons/audio/2022/05/2216.mp3

This was the first sermon that Pastor Jim preached upon returning to the pulpit after being hospitalized with Covid in 2022. He had planned to explain the doctrine of the Trinity, and we heard that he was having trouble locating a good sermon illustration. Fortunately, we had just heard about popular women’s speaker, Priscilla Shirer, preaching at modalist T.D. Jakes’s churchso we sent him the information.

While Pastor Jim didn’t specifically use this example in the sermon, he lamented the fact that he sees his church members endorsing modalist (Trinity-denying) false teachers on Facebook.

Begins @23:35 “You will hear out there…(I do not like to mention names. I could, I’ve got a whole roster of names, that I could mention, and as I close this, you say thankfully, but a whole roster of names and I can give you that you run across regularly. I just resist doing that. Although the Apostle Paul did it, and I’d have precedent for it in the scriptures. But I just feel that, maybe I’d go the wrong direction if I went that way.) “But I want to say that it grieves me when once in a while I get on Facebook, I don’t write much on Facebook, I get on there , and I see people I know and love recommending this person or that person to the public. And I say, ‘Oh my goodness! Do you know who you’re pushing? Do you know the crowd you’re pumping up?’ People, we’ve got to be more discerning. A lot of these people are modalists, they’re Sabellians. “You say, What is that? Well, there are people out there, I mean, they have 1000s and 1000s of followers. They do not believe in the Trinity, but they’re self-identifying Christians. They are not Christians.

“Listen, my name is James. It’s Jim. All kinds of people out there named James, but I wouldn’t identify with them just because their name is James. We’ve got to be more discerning. Find out who you’re pushing, find out who you’re promoting. And if they do not believe, a lot of them, they’re selling a bazillion books, they don’t know Jesus Christ from a bunny rabbit.

“So be careful. When you put your arms around some of these people, you’ve got to be more careful today, because it’s a trail mix out there. Some self-identifying Christians are Christians, and many are not. And many of them have big names, and they’re powerful. They’re just bad news, and then they mix up with one another.

“I do not understand a lot of these pastors who themselves are sound, and they go on some of these networks like TBN, I will mention that, or that Daystar. They go on there and I say, ‘Oh, Jack, what are you doing there? Because you’re there with these people who deny the faith, they deny the Trinity, and other things. When you lend your name and your presence, your good name and your presence to that, you are in effect, anointing these other people.’ We’ve got to be careful.” 26:40

 

Therefore, if it’s wrong for those whom Jim considers to be “sound pastors” to partner with the heretical TBN and Daystar channels, why is not also wrong for him to partner with a “Christian” publisher who promotes a witchcraft-endorsing author?

Finally, Pastor Jim teaches in Ephesians 5:8-11 that Christians must ready to stand up against false doctrine, even if it comes from those inside our churches:

Begins@28:30 “And so it is among our own family, when we see each other get out of line, and we’re not talking about things that we can’t see, but things that we know are clearly contrary to God’s Word. We had one of our ladies get up in a Sunday school class about a year ago and something was going on was just way out of the margins. And she said, ‘This is completely inappropriate. This is wrong.’ Bless her heart.

“That is what the scripture is talking about. So often we’re just afraid of our peers and we’re not courageous as light should be. So he says, call a spade a spade. That’s part of our standing orders as children of light: live as children of light. And one of those things that we do when we live as children of light is to call a spade, a spade. @29:38

…@31:28 “And these are the kinds of things that we’ve got to blow the whistle on as Christians. There are things that are wrong and political correctness would intimidate us. For example, we’re in an era where homosexuality has been elevated to minority status. And now if you are caught saying that this is wrong, that diversity is perversity, ah, ooo… We cannot keep step with political correctness. We have to call a spade, a spade. We have to say what it is and we have to take the heat.” Ends @32:20

Sadly, Pastor Jim has taken exactly the opposite course when publicly confronted (with sufficient biblical due process) last September about his unbiblical partnership with Xulon Press. Not only did he refuse to listen, but he also directed his associates to break man’s (civil) law, not just God’s law.

(Side Note: Even if Pastor Jim had cancelled his contract with Xulon and switched publishers, there would still be two other independent reasons why this would also be sinful, as we described in Part 12. Of course, he has never informed us of such a decision, nor has he repented for partnering with Xulon, so we presume the deal is still on.)

Then very recently, Pastor Jim made an unethical and unlawful demand of me (Paul), so I refused to comply, exactly as he has always taught us to do throughout his ministry. In retaliation, he decided to unbiblically (with no valid scriptural justification), and permanently, revoke his financial support for us, his own daughter and son-in-law.

We are both disabled (and Juli is bedridden) with myalgic encephalomyelitis (M.E.). Other than owning our home and car, we are financially destitute, with no other way to pay our enormous monthly medical and food expenses, which Medicaid and SNAP don’t cover. In addition, I am still waiting for my SSDI/SSI to be approved.

This inexplicable act could accurately be described as “apostate abandonment” (my term), meaning that a professing Christian financially forsakes a member of the immediate family, resulting in an automatic denial of his profession. He is worse than an unbeliever, because even unbelievers care for those in their own family (1 Timothy. 5:3-8):

 3Honor widows who are widows indeed; 4but if any widow has children or grandchildren, they must first learn to practice piety in regard to their own family and to make some return to their parents; for this is acceptable in the sight of God. 5Now she who is a widow indeed and who has been left alone, has fixed her hope on God and continues in entreaties and prayers night and day. 6But she who gives herself to wanton pleasure is dead even while she lives. 7Prescribe these things as well, so that they may be above reproach. 8But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. [Italics ours]

Scripture quotation taken from the (NASB®) New American Standard Bible®, Copyright © 1960, 1971, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission. All rights reserved. lockman.org

Thus, anyone who will not provide for his dependent children or needy parents cannot be a Christian (except for one exception, stated near the end).

In closing, we request that you listen to Pastor Jim preach on this passage (1 Tim. 5:3-8), specifically v.8, from 19:55-23:35, which ends with, “This is serious. You’ve denied the faith, you’re an apostate. You’re worse than an unbeliever.” Then, we would appreciate it if you would email him at jima@lakebiblechurch.com (do not call) and urge him to repent of his wickedness.

We would also like to remind the reader that we both love Pastor Jim very much, as our letter commemorating Jim’s 60 years in ministry demonstrates. We know that he would never do anything to harm us if he were healthy. Please join us in praying that he will get the medical attention he desperately needs.

P.S. Pastor Jim has, thus far, refused to provide a substantive, biblical answer to any of our legitimate questions raised last July or afterward. If he would like to finally respond to either Part 12 or 13, we would welcome that, either privately or publicly (here in the comments section), in accordance with his own teaching from God’s Word.

What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim Part 12

Originally posted on our radio ministry website, www.thefinalwordradio.com//editors-blog/, on September 25, 2023. The reason why we are reposting it now, in April 2024, is to give the reader the appropriate background for understanding Part 13, which will explain the developments since last September.

As we will explain in Part 13, it is hypothetically possible that some of the facts outlined in Part 12 are no longer correct. Even if so, the doctrinal issues would remain the same.

 

On July 10, 2023, Pastor Jim informed Juli & me (his daughter & son-in-law) about a new ministry project that he was going to undertake. Jim had just signed a contract with Xulon Press, a division of Salem Media Group, to publish his massive commentary on Romans, one of his favorite and most-studied books. In fact, he has taught classes in Bible college and seminary on this pivotal New Testament epistle as well.

However, Jim’s pursuit of this project entailed a theological and moral compromise in three specific areas, each of which should have prevented him from going forward, independently of the other two.

Thus, we are asking our The Final Word (TFW) listeners and donors, and our JimAndrewsBooks (JAB) visitors, to read this article and pray for Pastor Jim that he will repent of this unbiblical, unethical and disobedient behavior. Since any one of the three areas should have prevented Jim from moving forward, we are sharing Reason #2 with you, in order to help you understand the gravity of his sin.

Upon learning of Jim’s decision to partner with Xulon Press, I visited their website to investigate the spiritual character of the company. For more than thirty years now, Pastor Jim has decried the unbiblical, profit-driven Christian publishing industry on the air and in his books. When he has submitted manuscripts in the past to Christian publishers, they were not interested in doctrinally sound content. Instead, they only want to publish anything that would sell, even if that meant rank heresy.

Sadly, it only took a few minutes on the Xulon site to notice a heresy problem, located on the page where they tout the authors whose careers they have helped to launch. Among them was an instantly recognizable name, Pastor Mark Batterson, who was listed as one of the top 10 false teachers in evangelical churches by one of the best discernment websites.

Then, I wrote Pastor Jim back with this information, as well as the other two reasons, and admonishing him to abandon his plans:

“The second reason why this is damaging to everyone concerned is that you have carelessly allowed yourself to partner with an organization that promotes the very false doctrine you preach against

“So for you to go against your own teaching in 2 John 9-11 about needlessly partnering with false teachers (Salem Media Group/Xulon Press) in a publishing venture, when you already have one that is theologically sound (JimAndrewsBooks), is disobedient, and God will judge you for it.

“Just so you know: Your new ministry partner, Xulon, is promoting the witchcraft-endorsing Pastor Mark Batterson, author of The Circle Maker. You should be proud of that!”

Let me emphasize how important it is for the reader to understand Pastor Jim’s teaching about false teachers from various passages throughout Scripture. Here are just a few:

Ephesians 5:8-13 & 2 Peter 2:1-22:

2 John 5-10, and 11-13:

Matthew 13:24-43:

In addition, I informed Jim about the doctrinal decline of Salem Media Group:

“Salem Media Group has become theologically compromised over the decades just like everything else.

“Certainly, we are partnering with KPDQ (part of SMG), and if there were a better alternative, we would have to change. For example, last fall [2022], they repeatedly sent out emails advertising this online “Worldview” conference for churches/ministries.” (See below [images won’t show], or visit summit.org’s worldview page): 

From: 93.9 KPDQ <newsletter@members.salemsurround.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:01 AM
To: friend <info@thefinalwordradio.com>
Subject: Your Church is invited to a Christian World View Video Series: Now We Live

The Christian worldview seems to be losing in the battle of ideas. Whether it’s cultural relativism or political upheaval, the church finds itself in a culture where our core beliefs as believers in God are no longer plausible.

This shifting of balance of belief and attitude towards Christians has many unsure of which steps to take next. Summit Ministries has partnered with Family Research Council to create Now We Live: How Your Faith Can Transform a Broken World.

In six short videos, this small group series will lead your group to deep discussions about what it means to live in this world as Christians and how the Truth of the Gospel transforms every facet of our lives.

Leading Christian teachers and thinkers will help you understand God’s good design for the world, our place in it, and what we’ve been called to do as Christ followers.

When you sign up for a FREE account we’ll give you access to Now We Live as well as helpful small group resources to help you disciple others.

Request access to your free account and stream Now We Live, today.

Copyright © 2022 Salem Interactive Media, KPDQ-FM, 6400 SE Lake Road, Suite 350, Portland, OR 97222 is sending you an advertising or promotional message.

https://www.summit.org/resources/now-we-live/?ims=nwl-salem-email

“Jim, when you click on the link above, you find out the “experts” they offer are Universalist (Lee Strobel), NAR (Kirk Cameron), and LGBTQ-affirming, all promoting the same-sex attraction heresy and intimate same-sex touching (Rebecca McLoughlinChristopher YuanSean McDowell, etc).”

So then, dear reader, please pray that Pastor Jim will repent for his unbiblical decision and cancel his contract with Xulon Press. Please email (don’t call) Jim: jima@lakebiblechurch.com, and express your gratitude for his six decades of faithful ministry in the Word of God and tell him how God has blessed you through his ministry. But also, encourage him to make the right decision before God.

Also, please email (don’t call) our radio station, KPDQ: contactus@kpdq.com. and let them know that you do not support the heretical resources they are providing to local ministries, such as the “Now We Live” series mentioned above from last fall.

Finally, listen to Pastor Jim preach from 1 Samuel 12:1-5 about how to restore your lost integrity (toward the end of the sermon), and pray that he follows his own teaching.