5/2/25 As a result of contacting the Clackamas Country APS (Adult Protective Services) hotline again today for further clarification on the other potential violations on Oregon’s elder abuse law, we learned that some of the information we were given by “M” on February 3, 2025 was incorrect. So we will both explain it here, as well as update the article (using boldface and italics, prefaced by the date 5/2/25) to provide the new understanding.
However, the new development does NOT change any of the original facts in the situation, nor our truthfulness, nor Olsie’s desperate need for help. It ought to be obvious that we had no idea that we were being given incorrect information in one area, and because of the desperate nature of Olsie’s condition, we did not have the time to double-check the rules and regulations for implementing Oregon law that were publicly inaccessible in the first place.
While you are free to comment anytime, it may be more efficient for all concerned to wait until more information is released and/or corrected, since this is a dynamic process.
Here is the correction: Investigator “M” said that Pastor Jim had violated Oregon law in at least one specific area in December 2024. This information was incorrect. However, this does not pertain to the other potential charges being considered. You will find the (two) 5/2/25 updates in the text below:
4/25/25 Juli & I write this article with the utmost urgency, bordering on an emergency. As our title indicates, Juli’s mom (Olsie Andrews) desperately needs your help. There are specific actions you must take to ensure her health and well-being, but you must first understand all of the relevant issues.
First, we need to give some historical and medical background on Olsie. As we explained in a previous article:
In our Elders, Part 1 article, Juli and I have already begun refuting Pastor Jim’s cruel act of civil defamation, but now you will see that this behavior is part of a larger pattern of emotional abuse that Pastor Jim began in 2015 toward his wife Olsie, and his sick, disabled bedbound daughter. For example, early in that year, Olsie shockingly informed *us that Pastor Jim had recently begun unfairly blaming her for two of her health problems that she had not caused, nor was she able to reverse them just because they were frustrating to him.
(*By the way, according to Pastor Jim’s teaching from Scripture, two or three witnesses who are of godly character and of sound mind constitute biblically valid testimony. In the OT, someone could be convicted and sentenced to death by this testimony (Deut. 17:6). Listen to 1 Timothy 5:17-20.)
This news was completely unthinkable to us prior to this. And we would have had no way to know this if Olsie hadn’t told us. Sadly, this not only damaged Olsie physically and psychologically, but due to her own already declining mental health, she then unfortunately perpetuated the cycle of abuse. Olsie soon began mimicking her husband’s abusive behavior by blaming us for things that we could not help either. As we wrote to the elders on 1-30-23:
p.3-4 Let me add here that Jim has even freely admitted twice to being emotionally abusive toward Olsie, both times in 2017 (once implicitly and once explicitly).
Yet despite our desperate pleas for Jim to do his biblical due diligence and seek medical attention for himself and for Olsie, he has refused to do so for both of them. In addition, because he has emotionally abused Olsie beginning in 2015, she has tragically become (like many abuse victims) abusive of others, in this case, Juli & me (because we are disabled and physically/financially dependent on her.)
Pastor Jim also began a heretofore nonexistent pattern of blaming Juli, his own sick, disabled bedbound daughter, for worsening or causing her own mother’s cognitive decline.
In paragraph 1 of the following email, Pastor Jim describes both Olsie’s early symptoms of cognitive decline, as well as demonstrating his cruel tactic of blaming an innocent victim (Juli) for it:
From: Jim Andrews <jima@lakebiblechurch.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 6:47 PM
To: Paul Grose <paulgrose1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Olsie
Paul, Juli has to stop. You all may not realize it, but Olsie is on a narrow ledge as far as her mental health is concerned. She is not sleeping well. She is having trouble getting out of bed. TMJ for weeks has been about to take off the top of her head. Can find no relief but somehow keeps on going. Stresses everyday come at her from 19 different directions that you guys have no idea about. Both of us are showing signs at times of dementia (not really) but neither of us can remember the simplest things, too much coming at us, especially her. She is literally getting worn out and if things don’t let up soon, she is going to snap.
I realize nobody has it worse than you two, but she does all she can to help. I am just asking that you guys don’t compound the problem, or she is not going to be there for you one of these days. I can see it coming.
Jim
Notice that Pastor Jim unfairly and cruelly blames the worsening of Olsie’s condition on Juli. What was her alleged “crime?” She was simply begging her mom to take medical responsibility for herself, instead of fatalistically giving up and stopping a medication, since she had been stating recently that she was on the verge of having another nervous breakdown. (Olsie had frequently taken this OTC medicine for the prior 20 years, without incident, and it was necessary to keep her strong enough to function.)
Remember that Pastor Jim wrote extensively about Olsie’s struggles with severe depression, which began in 1992, in his book, Polishing God’s Monuments: Pillars of Hope for Punishing Times. And, of course, Olsie had been our in-home caregiver for the previous 28 years, and we could not afford for her health to deteriorate since there was nobody to take her place.
Unfortunately, five years later (August 2020), Olsie’s health did eventually deteriorate to the point where she was unable to continue as our caregiver or even come for a visit (this will be briefly explained later). However, neither she nor Pastor Jim would accept responsibility for their lack of due diligence in preventing this breakdown from occurring. Sadly, just as in 2015, Jim decided to blame Juli & me yet again for Olsie’s worsening cognitive decline. And this time, Pastor Jim perpetuated an elaborate lie to cover his tracks for who was truly to blame. (Olsie has since indicated on several occasions that Juli & I were not at fault for what happened on that day of August 6, 2020.)
Now we will explain the background of several recorded telephone calls you hear (transcripts provided). In December 2024, Juli invited her parents to come for a social visit around Christmastime, just as they had done amicably the year before (2023), and they agreed. Because of Juli’s medical appointment schedule, the visit was planned for Saturday, 12/28/24. However, when we called on Christmas Eve 12/24/24 to wish them a Merry Christmas, Pastor Jim mocked and mistreated me (Paul).
Then on 12/26/24, Jim called us to cancel the upcoming visit, saying that Olsie had learned that we had sent out “another one of those emails” and was “disgusted,” so she didn’t want to come. In this audio clip, then, you first hear Paul’s Christmas eve (12/24/24) call from 0:00-1:57, followed by Jim’s call on 12/26/24 from 1:58-2:12.
12-24-24 Paul & Juli call Jim & Olsie to wish them a Merry Christmas
(because the family visit won’t occur until Saturday, 12-28-24)
Paul: “We just wanted to see how you guys are doing and say Merry Christmas! We love you! Can you talk for a minute?”
Jim: “That’s the strangest thing on earth. It’s just schizophrenic. And then you send out another terrible email.”
Paul: “Well, we’re just following your teaching Jim, I don’t know what your problem is.”
Jim: “Paul, forget it.”
Paul: “Well, can we talk to Olsie?”
Jim: “Yeah, I’ll let you talk to her. [unintelligible] I’ve always regarded you as highly intelligent. You’re just schizophrenic. [Jim then has to locate Olsie and bring her the phone.]”
Jim: “Here’s Paul.”
Olsie: “Ok, OK. Hi Paul”
Paul: “Hi. We just wanted to say, ‘Merry Christmas!’ and Juli had to go the hospital today for the ultrasounds, so that’s why we had to put it off until Saturday for her to get through all these medical appointments this week. She’s had two today and one again on Friday, so we just wanted to say ‘Merry Christmas’ because we’re not going to see you until Saturday.”
Olsie: “Well, it’s sure is. I’ve been here kinda working and trying to put things together, but… So, we haven’t [unintelligible] but we’re saving the 18th. . That’s when it is that we’re coming over, right?”
Paul: “Uh, right, the 28th, right, Saturday”
Olsie: “What?”
Paul: “Yeah, on Saturday, yeah, the 28, yeah”
Olsie: “Yeah.”
Paul: “Well, we just want you to know that we love you and we miss you and look forward to having you over.”
Olsie: “Well, we’ll be there. I’m coming.’“
Paul: “Thank you so much. Ok, bye-bye.”
Olsie: “Ok, I’m saving a little thing for Juli, so …”
Paul: “Thank you so much.”
Olsie: “So anyway…”
[End of call, 1:58]
12-26-24, 2:42 p.m. Jim calls Paul, begins at 1:59
Jim: “Don’t get Juli ready on the 28th. Olsie will not be coming. She just learned that you sent out another one of those emails, so she’s [just as] disgusted as I am. Bye-bye.” End of call 2:12
In order for the reader to fully understand the full context, we must explain the background. Since September 2023, we have written 6 articles (9/25/23, 4/4/24, 6/28/24, 8/20/24 and two on 11/7/24) and posted them on The Editor’s Blog page on TFW website:
In September 2023, we wrote this article publicly rebuking Pastor Jim (after first contacting both him and the LBC Elder Board Chairman) for partnering with a self-described “Christian” publisher who promotes a witchcraft-endorsing pastor: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/whats-wrong-with-pastor-jim-part-12/
In April 2024, we wrote this article publicly rebuking Pastor Jim for compounding that unbiblical decision to partner with the witchcraft-endorsing “Christian” publisher by unlawfully taking possession of two websites he no longer owned: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/whats-wrong-with-pastor-jim-part-13/
In June 2024, we wrote this article reminding LBC members (and TFW listeners) of Pastor Jim’s excellent sermons in Haggai in which he warned the congregation (and radio audience): “Consider Your Ways?” (if you are in disobedience): https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/jim-andrews-1990-2024-to-lbc-consider-your-ways/
In August 2024, we wrote this article rebuking Pastor Jim for again violating man’s civil law by committing an act of cruel defamation against me (Paul): https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/whats-wrong-with-lbcs-elders-part-1/
In November 2024, we wrote two articles containing our 2-part Open Letter to all beneficiaries of Pastor Jim’s ministries (LBC, TFW and JAB). The first one rebukes Pastor Jim and LBC for using pro-LGBTQ curriculum in its children’s programs: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/whats-wrong-with-lbc-part-1/ . (The subtitle of this article is “You’re Flying the Gay Rainbow Flag over Your Building!”)
The second one pleads with anyone who would listen to hold Pastor Jim accountable for his sins against both God and man, especially because he was endangering Juli’s life by doing so: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/whats-wrong-with-lbc-part-2/ ]
Since Pastor Jim had, years previously, given me (Paul) the ownership and control of the radio ministry (TFW) website, email addresses for LBC, TFW & JAB, and then authorized me to create and write a regular e-Newsletter (which began on 9-13-20), we decided to use this resource to hold him accountable for his unbiblical actions. So we alerted all the subscribers each time we posted a new article, as seen in the listing above.
Link to Brian’s email
Then on December 9, 2024, we wrote a massive, five-section article on a different website (fro fundraising), detailing our medical and financial issues, as well as Pastor Jim’s doctrinal decline.
On December 23, 2024, we re-sent the November 7, 2024 TFW & JAB e-Newsletter to alert our readers that we were finally to respond to comments on the 2-part Open Letter after our medical trip to NY.
At this point in time, we are unsure which “email” Pastor Jim is referring to in his 12/24 and 12/26 calls, but we suspect it was the latest email (sent 12-23-24) since it was already two weeks after we posted our 12-9-24 article on our other site.
However, as just explained above, this 12-23-24 email (e-Newsletter) did not contain any new information that hadn’t already been available since 11/7/24. In addition, as we have definitively proven in Section 1 of our December 9, 2024 article, Pastor Jim has refused to grant us biblical due process at every level of accountability, beginning with his own family, etc.. He should have resolved the conflict that arose on August 6, 2020 immediately or shortly thereafter, and not allowed it to fester and grow out of control.
So when Pastor Jim called on 12/26/24 to cancel the upcoming social visit and said that both he and Olsie were “disgusted” with us, we were utterly heartbroken, because this also immediately and permanently shut down all communication. Thus, we were no longer even able to call Olsie, since Pastor Jim claimed that she was “disgusted” with us for simply telling the truth as he has always taught us. Juli cried uncontrollably when she realized she would never see her parents again.
Then on 1/31/25, Olsie called us out of the blue. She had just seen the news reports (around 6 p.m. Friday PST) about the plane crash in Philadelphia that included a sick patient who had just returned from Tijuana Mexico. Due to Olsie’s cognitive decline and confusion, she wasn’t sure if this person who was killed was a stranger or possibly even her own daughter, Juli.
Remember that Pastor Jim had shut down all communication as of 12/26/24, so we had been unable to contact Olsie now for over a month. She wondered if I (Paul) had possibly taken Juli back to the East Coast for additional medical treatments. (She already knew about our November 2024 trip to NY, and we had a pleasant phone call while we were there.) But because she had been missing Juli since Christmastime and was worried about her, she feared that the worst had happened.
Warning: This exchange is quite emotional. We urge you to put yourself in Olsie’s or Juli’s shoes and imagine how you would feel.
Olsie calling Paul & Juli on January 31, 2025:
Olsie: {unintelligible, crying} “…the plane burst up in there (into flames), and I didn’t know if you {Paul} had taken her someplace or not.”
Paul: “No, she’s right here with me.”
Olsie: “Ok, it was somebody who was being transferred because someone had someone sick in their family. I didn’t know if she’s alright (crying)…”
Paul: “She’s right here, Olsie, she’s right here.”
Juli (crying): “Mom, I’m right here, I’m fine. Mom, I’m right here. I’m right here. I’m right here, Mom.”
Olsie, “Yeah, OK, OK”
Juli: “I’m right here, Mom, I’m right here.”
Paul: “We miss you really bad.”
Olsie (crying): …..
Juli: “It’s Ok Mom. I was just laying here thinking about how much I miss you, I was just laying here thinking about how much I miss you, because today was cleaning day and I always miss you so much on cleaning days. And I was thinking about pretty you always made the house look, and I was laying here thinking about how pretty you made the kitchen look and everything. And so I was laying here thinking about how much I miss you.
Olsie: {crying, unintelligible} “I miss you too, honey. I miss you all the time. I think I’m going crazy.”
Juli: “What? Mom, you’re not going crazy. You’re fine. We, I want you to come and be with me. You’re fine. I want you to come be with me again.”
Olsie: “I’m always ready to come, Juli, I’m always ready to come. If I have to stand outside in the rain, and I’m always {unintelligible}.”
Juli: “Why, have you worried that you think you’re going crazy, Mom? Why do you feel like you’re going crazy?”
Olsie: “Because I never know what’s happened to you.”
Juli: “Oh, Mom, then just call and find out; you can call anytime you want.”
Paul: “We miss you. We wanted you to come over.”
Juli: “I miss you. I wanted you to come at Christmastime. I wanted you to come so bad, and I was so sad when Dad said you weren’t gonna come. And I wanted you to come so bad.”
Olsie: “I know, honey, but I was coming. I was ready to come. And somebody took and put stuff out, they put stuff or papers, and I don’t know what it was, and they told me I couldn’t come.”
Juli: “Oh, well,”
Paul: “Anyway, we’ll just try to work it out, OK?”
Juli: “I want you to come. I want you to be with me, and I want to see you again. And I love you so much, and I was just laying here thinking about how much I miss you terribly (crying). I miss you terribly (crying). I don’t feel like I can stand…I’m just so alone in the house, and I’m so alone in here, and Paul’s so busy.”
Olsie: “Don’t worry. I had it ready for Christmas, and I had it fixed and everything, and Dad wouldn’t let me bring it because he said somebody threw stuff all around. I don’t what it was all about, but I didn’t get to come.”
Juli: “No, I want you to come. Paul wanted you to come. And every day…a few days ago, Elaine [Paul’s mom] came up here and I talked to her for a few minutes, and we were talking, and then she said, ‘I miss seeing your mom,’ and I started to cry because I miss you so much.
And I’m just having a hard time because I’m just alone in the [house], and Paul’s so busy trying to take care of everything, and he can hardly hold it together, and he’s lost like 40 pounds [since late 2022]. He’s skin and bones. He’s so skinny. He’s just, he’s just so skinny. He’s just, he’s just literally a skeleton because he can’t hold it together. He’s so skinny, and he’s just a scarecrow. And he’s really busy all the time trying to hold everything together. And I’m just, I’m just alone in this room, night and day, and even…”
Olsie; “And that’s where I am, too.
It should be immediately apparent here that someone isn’t telling the truth. Either Olsie uttered the word, “disgusted,” as Jim claimed on 12/26/24 or she didn’t. If she did, she must have said it under coercion, given her true feelings just revealed here. So then, either Pastor Jim is guilty of 1) lying about what she said, or even worse, 2) coercing her to lie. You will understand the significance of this later in this article.
Speaking of coercion, we have numerous examples of Olsie telling the truth to Juli & me in private, and then after talking to Jim, her story changes 180 degrees, making the victim out to be the victimizer. If anyone needs a reminder, Pastor Jim has rightly taught from God’s Word that the testimony of two or three witnesses (such as Juli & me) who are of sound mind and godly character constitute biblically valid testimony:
The most glaring example of this occurred on January 14, 2021, during a phone call with Olsie. She completely exonerated me from any wrongdoing ever in my treatment of her, including specifically the conflict that arose on August 6, 2020, for which she and Jim originally blamed me. She clearly said that I had always treated her well, and I wasn’t to blame for her being upset that day.
Notice what Juli wrote for her sister Kristi in April, 2021 to describe what happened after Olsie talked to Pastor Jim about that January 14, 2021, conversation:
The final part of the message is the 3 exonerative statements mom made on January 14. I heard them [Olsie & Paul] loud and clear over the speakerphone, but when I asked her [Olsie] to go to you & Dad, she refused to accurately state what she [had just] said.
What Dad wrote back that she [Olsie] told him, was totally different. Her wording deliberately intends to avoid exonerating Paul (which she clearly did on January 14) and absolve herself of any responsibility. This twisting of the truth is inconsistent with what Dad preaches in Proverbs 6:16-19.
BTW: Paul is willing to re-send her [Olsie] the email in which he tries to help her (indirectly) reorient her wording to reflect exactly what she said on January 14.
Bottom line: I heard her lovingly and truthfully exonerate Paul of any fault on August 6. I heard her exact words and tone. She was not coerced [by Paul or me]. I heard her accurately express how Paul has always treated her. So I don’t know exactly why she [Olsie] would fail to repeat things exactly as she [originally] said to you and Dad. Even when I have repeatedly asked her to restate her language as originally spoken, she keeps repeating it in the twisted form.
So while we were relieved to finally hear back from Olsie on 1/31/25, especially since she no longer appeared to be “disgusted” with us (if she ever was), we were horrified to realize what terrible danger Pastor Jim had just put her in as a dementia patient suffering from confusion and cognitive decline. What could be more cruel? To not only deny a mother access to her loving daughter and son-in-law, but also to callously dismiss her loneliness and grief, allowing the possibility of a deadly result.
Many of us have learned throughout the years about the medical dangers that grief can cause a family member. For example, back in 2016, the son of actress Debbie Reynolds attributed her death the day after his sister’s to “Broken Heart Syndrome”:
What mother doesn’t dread finding out that her child is dead? What adult child doesn’t dread finding out that a mother or father has passed away?
Thus, Pastor Jim’s emotional cruelty to his own wife in this regard indicates just how medically unhealthy he is.
Due to the significant risk to Olsie’s mental and physical health, we were forced to take every action to protect her. So the next day, we contacted the State of Oregon’s Abuse or Neglect Hotline. We were instructed to leave a message in the appropriate county’s voicemail based on the address of the abuse victim. Then I also wrote and emailed a 10-page letter, summarizing the situation. Here is an excerpt:
Dear Clackamas County APS [Adult Protective Services], 2-1-25
Our names are Paul & Juli Grose. We are reporting the emotional abuse of Juli’s mother, Olsie Lou Andrews, 86 (DOB: XXXXX), of West Linn, by her (formerly very loving and godly) husband, James Warren Andrews, 87 (DOB:XXXXX), of West Linn. They reside at XXXXXXXXXXXXX. To our knowledge, physical violence has never occurred, but the toll of the emotional abuse is great.
You may be wondering why we are so insistent upon stipulating up-front about James’s (he goes by Jim) lifetime of loving care of Olsie. That is because he has been a loving father to Juli, and he has been our pastor from 1990-2024 at Lake Bible Church in Lake Oswego. We are certain, based on the Christian character Jim showed his entire adult life, that the cause of his abuse of Olsie is an unspecified medical problem. We realize that the current issue is not so much “why” .as simply “that” abuse is occurring, but we needed to explain that right away. As an exhibit, we would like you to reference Pastor Jim’s book (edited by me, Paul) on marriage: Marriage without Remorse: Rules for the Road (attached).
Before continuing, we’d like to give a quick overview of the most pertinent facts in this case:
1) As you will see below, Olsie began experiencing symptoms of early cognitive decline about 10 years ago (age 76).
2) Olsie had a severe breakdown in August 2020 and was unable to continue being our daily caregiver; she also stopped driving immediately (age 81 ½).
3) Olsie was diagnosed with cognitive decline in early January 2024 (age 85)
4) Olsie lost her accounting job soon thereafter (late Jan, age 85).
Olsie began describing to us that Jim was treating her differently about 10 years ago, in early 2015, when he was 77 ½ years old and she was 76. This was completely shocking to us, as you can imagine. At the time, he was blaming her (uncharacteristically) for medical problems she could not help, which were her difficulty hearing (caused by playing the piano for many years during the church services with an audio monitor placed too-closely nearby), and her increasing memory problems.
Unfortunately, we only obtained this information because at the time, Olsie had begun doing the same kinds of things to us, as is typical in those who are being emotionally abused. She was also demonstrating significant signs and symptoms of very early cognitive decline (depression, memory problems, emotional instability), and she sadly did not receive any medical treatments to prevent or slow the progression of her disease. She was finally diagnosed with cognitive decline about 1 year ago, in Jan 2024.
Because Pastor Jim (as we will now refer to him) had taught from the Bible all throughout his pastoral ministry (beginning in 1963 in WV) about how husbands/fathers are to treat their wives/children, we knew that this behavior was most likely caused by a medical problem. However, he was unwilling to take any significant steps to diagnose or treat those symptoms in himself, either.
Over the decades as Juli & I have helped Pastor Jim in his various ministries at Lake Bible Church, his printed books ministry (of which we are both co-authors), and the weekday Christian radio program, he has trained us in knowing God’s Word and standing up to those sin against God or who mistreat others.
However, as his abuse of Olsie & us continued, we realized that we would have to bring this to the attention of those charged with overseeing, the Board of Elders at Lake Bible Church. So on January 30, 2023 (two years ago), we sent the first of many communications, including significant (but not exhaustive) documentation of the medically driven changes we had observed in Jim (See below). In addition, we specified that we did NOT want him to resign immediately, but rather to come clean and get medical help, so that he could continue to preach and lead the church.
Then on Monday, 2/3/25, we received a call back from an investigator with the Clackamas County APS (Adult Protective Services), whose first name begins with “M” (female). She informed us that Olsie was doubly protected by Oregon law against Elder Abuse because of her age (86) and her disability (diagnosed with cognitive decline in Jan 2024). She confirmed that, based on the events of December 2024, Pastor Jim had violated Oregon law in at least one area. [5/2/25 update: Based on the new information we received today from Clackamas County APS, the specific charge referred to here (“in at least one area”) had NOT been technically violated. However, this correction does NOT apply to any other potential charges being considered.]
(Here is a sample lawyer’s page explaining various aspects of the law.)
The investigator, “M,’ also cautioned us that, due to limited resources, the State HQ may be forced to prioritize other, more severe violations first. She also noted, after reviewing our online articles detailing Pastor Jim’s abuse of Olsie, that we had not yet publicly displayed all the required documentation to legally (not biblically) prove our case. We explained that this was by design: We had always hoped to deal with this privately, first within the family, and then, within the church, but Pastor Jim refused in both cases. Then we were forced to go online to publicly expose his abusive treatment of Olsie with biblically sufficient evidence, but even after this, sadly, his former seminary/Bible college students and radio listeners & book readers were unwilling to take any action to save Juli’s or Olsie’s life.
And thus, we have now been forced to issue this dire warning & plea in this article, “My Mom Desperately Needs Your Help!” Any further delay in getting Olsie sufficient medical care will inevitably result in her cognitive decline becoming irreversible, based on the findings of the top neurologists and researchers in the world. This is all the more important because, even after being diagnosed with cognitive decline in early January 2024, Olsie has still been able to make progress while under supervised treatment. So there is definitely hope, but very little time.
Before we continue, we must provide more context for the discussions about visiting at Christmastime in 2024 and why this was so important for Olsie in particular. As we explained above, Olsie’s cognitive decline progressed to the point in August 2020 that she was unable to continue as our caregiver or come for a normal visit. We will not fill in all the details at this point in order to save time (though you may be able to deduce some of the issues by reading/listening up ahead), but the result of this was that from August 6, 2020 onward, she was unable to visit with Juli and me inside the house on daily basis as she had for the previous 25 years.
Thus, Olsie missed Juli, and Juli missed her mom. Finally, in late 2023, Juli and Olsie discussed possibly getting together over Christmas. In this audio clip from December 19, 2023, you will hear Olsie thank me (Paul) for a *loving email I wrote to them. (*Explanation: Sadly, Pastor Jim had been refusing to personally discuss with me a legal letter I had sent about two month before, and he then forced Olsie to do his dirty work for him on December 17, even though she was not knowledgeable about these legal issues at all. He thus was failing be a good citizen by being unwilling even to acknowledge the receipt of (as well as the reading of) the legal letter I had sent him regarding the ownership of The Final Word & Jim Andrews Books websites. Thus, Jim both Olsie and me in a terrible position, so we both got frustrated during the call. So Olsie wrote an apology note, and I (Paul) wrote a loving note back to her. However, the conflict should never have happened in the first place.)
In addition, as you will see, I have always treated Olsie in a loving way, even when I am forced to confront her or Jim about something they are doing wrong.
In this clip, you will hear Olsie describe 1) how much she loves both of us, 2) how much she feared that she wouldn’t get to see Juli in person that Christmas (2023), and 3) how relieved and elated that she was that finally, after 3 ½ years, she would be able to enjoy a brief visit inside our house with us.
Olsie called Paul & Juli, 12-19-23 7:55 p.m.
Juli: Hi Mom.
Olsie: Hey, Honey.
Juli: I love you.
Olsie: [Paul wrote] a beautiful letter.
Juli: Thank you. He loves you. I haven’t gotten to see you in a while, but he loves you so much. I need you to know that.
Olsie: Well, I love both of you, and I appreciate it. I just love what Paul wrote, and it’s very, very thoughtful.
So, you know, we said in the fall, or whenever it was, maybe this year, we would have a nice Christmas. And I cried and cried to God and said, “Lord, we’re not going to have a good Christmas again.” [crying] But we are having a good, we can have a good Christmas again.
Juli: Mom, it will be okay. We just need … it doesn’t need to be that big of a deal. We just need to work things out. If I could just explain: Paul and I are so sick, and we’re getting sicker all the time. And if you read, I could have you read Whitney’s, there’s an article you’ve never read, that he wrote in a medical journal, Dr. Davis’s son, Whitney, and it’s peer-reviewed, which means other doctors approved of it, so it’s literally a medical article. And you’ve never read it [because it was relatively recent], but he just describes what life is like, and just how particular [Whitney has to] have everything, just really quiet, and just with his caregivers and everything.
And we just need to work things out, because it’s just, like what happened with Paul and you on Sunday. It’s not you, it would be if it were Elaine [Paul’s mom] or with anybody.
That kind of thing makes him and me, when there’s an argument, so sick, and it’s like it’s permanent relapse. Permanent, and like, you can’t get up out of bed for weeks and months, and it keeps getting worse. And so, when you read this with Whitney, you will see it’s just the illness, it’s just the way the illness works.
And if, the whole thing, if we can just get like some medicine, that’s been our whole goal [all] along the whole time. It’s not anything to do with you. There’s just things going on in your body, that are making you [unintelligible] way. And if we can just get some of your neurotransmitters turned around, where it’s not such an easy tendency for you, then we won’t have any problems, and you can come back in and we can visit every day like we used to. And that’s our wish too, and it’s not that big of a deal, it really isn’t. It’s just, you know, that was the whole thing with everything we tried to do, it’s just because I need my mom.
And yet, if you read this article by Whitney, you’ll see just how particular everything has to be, just how, any kind of extra sensation, any kind of, like I’m giving you an example, like when Janet and Ron Davis have to come in his room, now I don’t have this, but they have to wear black [clothing], because he can’t handle any colors, because it just stimulates his brain too much.
And so for us, like an argument of any kind, even me like talking, and I’m OK right now, I mean, any kind of…
Olsie: I can read it over again, but…
Juli: Yeah, I don’t think you’ve ever read this one.
Olsie: [unintelligible]
Juli: Yeah, you haven’t read this one, and it’ll really help you understand, and I just need [you] to know, this doesn’t need to be, it’s not, it’s not you, it’s not any criticism of you or anything, it’s just, it’s the same principle as somebody wearing perfume in the house. And it doesn’t matter who it is, it doesn’t matter if it’s you, or it’s Elaine, or Gordon [Paul’s dad] wearing cologne, I can’t handle perfume.
Well, it’s the same principle as far as sound, like for me, most of the day, where I’m at right now, I can’t handle any sound, or very many lights, and so, if there’s an upset, like there’s an argument, I mean, I’m just, and Paul’s the same way, I am just weak for months, sick for months. And so it’s like every time there’s an argument, it’s not just like, oh, we get over it, it’s like it’s permanent, and so, to just do things to help your body, where you’re more calm and everything, then we can work that out.
And then if we can get that trigger, what’s triggering that in your body, calm down, and get that worked out, then we can have you back. And Paul, I can’t tell you, and I’m like, I’m just giving you an example, like, whenever, and it’s just a physical problem, so whenever you or Dad [as had recently done in a Dec. 2023 meeting held at LBC, violating Mat. 18:15ff—when Paul was not present or able to defend himself] say like, “Paul, Paul won’t let Olsie in,” he gets so sick, and so hurt, and he just gets so ill, because he feels so falsely accused, and he’s like, “Lord, it’s not because I don’t want her in. I need her in here, I’m so falsely accused because I’m so sick, and I can’t handle any kind of argument, I’m just that sick.
And I’ve got to take care of Juli, and then Dad will go around saying, “Paul won’t let Olsie come.” Well, he wants you in here so bad, I can’t tell you how much [he loves you].
As you have just seen and heard, despite the public acrimony between us and Jim & Olsie from late September 2023 all the way up through December 17, two days before this call, Juli & still I missed them and wanted to maintain our close personal relationships with them as much as possible. We had done nothing wrong; in fact, we were simply following Pastor Jim’s lifelong teaching from God’s Word about accountability in the family, church, ministry, etc.
Also, note that Pastor Jim thanked me on his way out the door after our 30-minute visit, in which we talked about the genealogical research Juli had done into both of their families.
Link to page showing SCREENSHOT OF Paul’s & Jim’s EMAIL
Thus, we had all just proven that we could strongly disagree about doctrine and legal matters, but we could continue to enjoy each other as a family. Thus, when the opportunity for a Christmastime visit arose a year later, in 2024, Olsie was understandably looking forward to seeing us for an in-person conversation again.
Now back to our conversation with “M,” the investigator from Clackamas County APS. I asked her if she had read everything that we had submitted, including Pastor Jim’s 200-page marriage book. She confirmed that she had done so. At this point, it would be beneficial to quote Pastor Jim from the opening of his first chapter (italics + bold added):
In my pastoral life counseling has been both exhilarating and exasperating—exhilarating when people have “ears to hear,” actually apply the wisdom you have shared with them, and later say, “Thank you, pastor! That’s exactly the advice I (we) needed,” and exasperating when couples blow off remedies that could have healed their homes.
Frankly, most dysfunctional marriages I have encountered could be put back in order pronto if only the couples would just take this one piece of biblical advice: Be a servant!
That is the first rule for the marital road. Start there and the rest of this book may be unnecessary, for this one relational principle covers, like love, a multitude of marital sins.
That spirit, which is a choice by the way, is God’s direction for all our relationships in the body of Christ and preeminently in the home. Just because the man may be God’s designated head of the family does not mean by any stretch that he is exempted from the obligation to act as a servant in that domestic order. God did not anoint him to selfishly dominate or tyrannize his wife, but, like Christ, to be a servant to her. And likewise, the wife does not exist to manipulate her husband or to seek her own fulfillment, but, as in the beginning, to be a helper or a servant to her Adam in all his legitimate needs and desires.
As we have explained repeatedly in our articles and also to this Investigator, “M,” Pastor Jim’s unspecified health condition is causing him to act uncharacteristically, destroying his own legacy. We wanted her to read passages such as this so she would understand what kind of godly man he has always been. I also asked her if the State HQ investigator would be talking to his doctor. She replied, “Well, you want him to get better, don’t you?” To which I answered emphatically, “Yes, that’s what we’ve wanted all along!” [5/2/25 clarification: This would only occur if the State HQ investigator actually opened a case.]
Now let’s examine exactly what kind of behavior this unspecified medical condition is causing. As we have just proven above, there was no legitimate reason for Jim to keep Olsie away from Juli from August 6, 2020 to December 24, 2023, and then from that date up to the present.
Olsie has clearly specified, on several occasions including 1/14/21 and others, that I (Paul) did not cause her breakdown on that August day. So then, why wouldn’t Pastor Jim follow his own teaching from God’s Word about repenting from sin (both his own, and Olsie’s) and show the necessary repentance to restore the relationship?
As you have read above, Pastor Jim did not explain his rationale for cancelling the family visit, so we cannot know for sure. But we can ask probing questions for his supporters to ask themselves and him:
Why, on 12/26/24, did Pastor Jim cancel the upcoming Christmastime visit instead of biblically correcting the marriage and family turmoil he himself had been causing since 2015 because of his own health decline?
Why did Pastor Jim cancel the visit over the simple re-sending of an “email” that had already been sent earlier, on Nov. 7, 2024?
Regardless of the *reason(s) Pastor Jim might give for cancelling, if he was so morally certain about the rightness of his decision, then why did he feel the need to lie, or even worse, to coerce Olsie into lying about her true feelings. Let’s compare his statements with hers:
[*BTW: If Pastor Jim was concerned that, by attending the visit, he & Olsie would be tacitly acknowledging the truthfulness of our articles, then he could have easily insisted that Juli & I sign a paper stipulating that this was not the case, and we would have agreed. Therefore, he could have preserved his own position and still allowed Olsie to see her own daughter for a social visit.]
Jim said on 12/26/24: “She [Olsie] just learned that you sent out another one of those emails, so she’s [just as] disgusted as I am.”
This presumes that Olsie either 1) had read the “email” herself, which she denied on 1/31/25, or 2) had learned sufficient information about the contents therein in order to form an opinion of being “disgusted.”
However, Olsie said on 1/31/25 that she didn’t even know what the “email” was about. And since the content of the email/article contained damning information against Pastor Jim based on her own direct, eyewitness testimony, she would have no reason to be “disgusted” with us for just telling the truth.
So then, did Pastor Jim lie on 12/26/24, or did he coerce her to lie, forcing her to say that she was “disgusted” with us, and then he repeated her coerced lie to us, thereby destroying the relationship?
Think about it: If both of your parents say that they are “disgusted” with you, and they show no interest in visiting with you in person for years on end, wouldn’t you assume that the relationship has been permanently destroyed?
And as you remember from the beginning of this article, the ramification of his cruel act of destroying his daughter’s relationship with her mother (and vice-versa) could have possibly led to Olsie experiencing a fatal or near-fatal medical event (such as in the Broken Heart Syndrome).
Now ask yourself these other questions:
What would have happened if Olsie hadn’t been unable to reach us on 1/31/25? (After all, she called our landline here in Oregon.) What if we truly had been out of state, and she didn’t know or remember my (Paul’s) cel phone number?
What if she tried to call, but then missed us, therefore prolonging her distress and increasing the risk of a severe health event?
Also, ask yourself this: Why wouldn’t a father want to occasionally see his own disabled daughter in person, even if he had public disagreements with her, just as he had done the year before?
Why does Pastor Jim want to avoid Juli, and to isolate Olsie from her? Is it because he’s worried that Olsie will divulge even more details of his abuse to Juli & me?
As you can now see, there has been a startling change in Pastor Jim’s moral and ethical behavior. It’s literally 180 degrees the opposite of his lifetime of godly obedience. Juli & I have done over 4 ½ years of extensive medical research online to try to understand what is happening. In addition, Olsie and the rest of the family have given us their observations through the years, helping us complete the picture.
So we will now briefly summarize the signs and symptoms that Olsie & the family have used to describe Pastor Jim:
Early 2015: Olsie told us that Jim was being verbally abusive, blaming her for medical problems she could not help (see letter to APS above). She also said that John and Kristi both had noticed signs of cognitive decline in each of them and made what Jim & Olsie considered to be unkind remarks to them.
May 7, 2015: Pastor Jim wrote the email cited above, “Both of us are showing signs at times of dementia (not really) but neither of us can remember the simplest things, too much coming at us, especially her.”
April 2017: Pastor Jim forgot that he had written an article just four years before, shortly after the accession of Pope Francis, condemning him and the Roman Catholic Church for its total apostasy. He admitted that he had been deceived over the decades by prominent Protestants, such as J. Vernon McGee and Luis Palau, into thinking that there was a legitimate evangelical constituency within the RCC. Not only did he fail to remember his 2013 about-face on the matter, but he then initially tried to revert back to his unbiblical pre-2013 position, likely because of fear of Catholic or pro-Catholic attenders at LBC.
Late Summer 2018: Pastor Jim’s behavior on Facebook was causing great concern in the family. Kristi called me (Paul) and asked me to look at a comment he posted about a picture he had taken at the famous Greenbriar Resort hotel in West Virginia. He had accidentally taken the picture of his own feet instead of the intended object, so he called himself a “retard.” The entire Dotson family was upset about this, since this term had become unacceptable in recent decades, but Jim was clueless about how insensitive it was. Yet nobody in the family dared to confront him and ask him to take it down.
Kristi called me to ask me if I could talk to him. She said (approximately), “He respects you. He’ll listen to you. John and I have tried on some other things, but it hasn’t gone very well. The kids are afraid to confront him.” I declined, explaining that we had recently had a conflict, and that John was the appropriate person to biblically confront him, since he was a pastor. John did so, and Jim thankfully agreed to change the wording. But this was a major warning sign of Jim’s decline.
In that same conversation, Kristi told me that her son, Pastor Alex Dotson, said that his “greatest regret in life was teaching Grandpa how to use Facebook.” This is because Jim was also engaging in unChristlike, argumentative behavior (in his online manners, not his doctrine) with a former member of LBC’s youth group, and everyone in the family was worried about it.
2019: Both Olsie and Kristi told Juli at different points how much emotional pain Pastor Jim was causing them. Olsie said, “I just have to give it to the Lord. You have to do the same thing.” And Kristi told Juli how much he was hurting her, causing her to have to turn off her emotions just to survive. She also explained that she tried to comfort herself with the realization that Pastor Jim had “diminished capacity.”
2020: Olsie told us that Pastor Jim had a strong family history of this kind of (unspecified) medical disorder, esp. amongst the male members. She also indicated that she was having growing difficulty dealing with it.
Based on this family testimony, there are several diagnostic possibilities, but that is for Pastor Jim’s doctor(s) to determine. The purpose of this article is to get both Pastor Jim & Olsie sufficient medical attention to prevent certain spiritual, medical and financial disaster, not to ascertain exactly what’s going on.
However, we must help the reader understand some of the dynamics so that he/she can act appropriately.
First, it has been established that many neurodegenerative diseases can cause changes in behavior even before any cognitive changes are seen. This can be in various types of dementia:
One of the first noticeable symptoms of dementia is not memory loss, but personality changes. The brain areas responsible for emotions, judgment, and social behavior begin to deteriorate, leading to unexpected behavioral shifts.
Neurocognitive disorders (Alzheimer’s Disease, Parkinson’s Disease, Mild Behavioral Impairment, Mild Cognitive Impairment, bvFTD), :
New onset of mood and behavioral changes in middle-aged patients are frequently the first manifestations of an unrecognized neurocognitive disorder. Impairment of social cognition, the cognitive ability to process social information coming from others, such as emotions, to attribute mental states to others, and to respond appropriately to them, is often at the origin of behavioral manifestations in neurodegenerative disorders.
In addition, it is important to recognize that social cognition and cognitive dysfunction are often independent of each other. Parkinson’s or Alzheimer’s disease:
In addition to NPS, social cognition changes are reported in individuals with dementia (Snowden et al., 2003; Poveda et al., 2017). Social cognition allows individuals to partake in social situations by enabling them to perceive and recognize the thoughts, emotions, and behaviors of others (Shany-Ur and Rankin, 2011). An intact association between implicit and explicit cognitive functions are required in order to successfully decipher and interact with the social environment around us. People with dementia may display increasing difficulties in understanding social cues or recognizing emotions (Phillips et al., 2010). For instance, individuals with AD have trouble adapting to change, unconcerned with others’ feelings and are unable to control emotions. These social cognition changes are independent of cognitive dysfunction and increase over time (Cosentino et al., 2014).
Thus, due to Pastor Jim’s unspecified medical problem causing his severe behavioral change, the once-healthy family relationships have been destroyed. The author of this article, Ryan, wrote this article in part based on his own experience. It is entitled, “What Do You Do When Your Elderly Father Turns Against You?” Here is an excerpt:
Reasons for Elderly Parents Turning Against Their Children
1. Dementia or other cognitive disorders
As we get older, our bodies and minds go through a lot of changes. For some elderly parents, this can mean developing dementia or other cognitive disorders. These conditions can cause them to act in ways that are out of character and even turn against their own children.
Dementia is a brain disorder that affects memory, thinking, and behavior. As the disease progresses, it can cause confusion, agitation, and even aggression. It’s not uncommon for an elderly parent with dementia to lash out at their loved ones, including their children.
Other cognitive disorders, such as Alzheimer’s disease or Parkinson’s disease, can also lead to changes in behavior that may cause an elderly parent to turn against their children. These disorders can affect the way the brain processes information and may cause a person to act impulsively or unpredictably.
If you suspect that your elderly parent’s behavior is related to a cognitive disorder, it’s essential to seek medical attention. With proper diagnosis and treatment, it’s possible to manage the symptoms of these conditions and improve your parent’s quality of life.
Thus, now that we have provided overwhelming evidence of the destruction of family relationships caused by Pastor Jim’s unspecified medical problem and have listed several possible diagnoses that can cause this, we must briefly examine the spiritual impact of this. As this Scientific American article explains, a person’s moral behavior is more central to his/her identity than any other factor, including memory.
Researchers from the University of Arizona and Yale decided to investigate this hypothesis directly in a real-world clinical population. Their study was designed to test what types of cognitive damage cause people to no longer appear to be themselves to others. A crucial element of the design was testing for changes in identity from the perspective of a third person observer, rather than the individual himself. In addition to sidestepping many of the reliability problems intrinsic to first-person accounts, focusing on perceived identity allowed the investigators to assess the effects of memory and moral changes on the patient’s relationship with others. This is an extremely important facet because when someone appears to be “not the same person,” the social bonds between patients and loved ones or caregivers quickly deteriorate. These bonds are critical to one’s well-being and health, as they are the source of the connectedness one feels to the people in their lives and the outside world.
The investigators recruited 248 volunteers with family members who suffered from one of three types of neurodegenerative diseases. Patients had either Alzheimer’s disease, frontotemporal dementia, or amyotrophic lateral sclerosis (ALS), each of which are characterized by relatively distinct cognitive and behavioral changes. While ALS primarily affects motor but not mental function, both Alzheimer’s and frontotemporal dementia affect cognition. However, where Alzheimer’s strongly affects things like memory and IQ, those with frontotemporal dementia tend to undergo changes in moral traits—i.e., things like honesty, compassion, decency, and integrity.
Summary: This new research is also an important intellectual contribution to the discussion surrounding the ancient question of what makes someone who they are. It appears that it is not our intelligence or our knowledge of the past that defines us, but instead our moral behavior. Essentially, identity is not what we know, but what we stand for.
So then, if it’s our moral behavior that truly defines us, not our memory or intelligence, what is the impact of Pastor Jim’s behavioral change in behavior on his family and (former) church members and listeners/readers?
In order to answer this, we must ask, Who was Pastor Jim Andrews? Anyone who knew him would instantly say that his most defining characteristic throughout his entire lifetime (while he was healthy) was his honesty and integrity. He never lied.
Now listen to this portion of Pastor Jim’s sermon in 1 John 1:3-4 in which he describes the consequences of someone choosing to disbelieve the clear teaching of God’s Word, especially regarding the Lord Jesus Christ. Anyone doing so is calling God a liar, which is antithetical to his very nature. Then Pastor Jim uses himself as a (lesser) example of this:
@15:37, Before we move forward with our exposition of this text, several things I would have you notice about the content of this preface. One is: Observe carefully that one of the tests of fellowship in the faith is one’s theology, what we believe or refuse to believe. If it is not transparent why, what we believe or disbelieve matters to God, let me explain.
As a person, I take pride in being truthful, telling the truth. Whatever my vices, that is one of my virtues. So much so that of all things that offend me deeply, it is when someone questions my veracity or when I find somebody lying. Years and years ago, long gone now, thankfully, [I] had an elder who once questioned my integrity on a matter and was quite taken back when I took offense. I warned him right then and there that if he wanted to continue our conversation, to not even think of going there again, for I said, “My friend, whatever my various faults, lying is not one of them.”
I thought it was quite a commentary on his own character when the guy professed amazement that I would take such umbrage at his suggestion that I had not been truthful about a matter. For, he explained, he just didn’t get it, “You don’t lie?” he asked in amazement, “I lie,” as if to say, “I breathe. Everybody breathes. Surely you can admit that you breathe too.” Well, that insinuation set my pants on fire, for it goes to my character and my character is who I am.
Well, God is the same way, my friends, God has revealed Himself in Jesus Christ. If we refuse to believe the Word God has revealed, you know what? In effect, we call God a liar and that disbelief goes to His character. That posture is sacrilege, and Heaven, I warn, will never roll over for such an insult unless repented of. @17:32
So then, if truthfulness and honesty have always been integral to Pastor Jim’s redeemed nature, but now they are not, then you can understand why Juli & I feel like we no longer know “who this person is,” even though his cognitive skills remain strong.
However, also remember that because of Pastor Jim’s unspecified medical condition, he is making decisions that are harmful to Olsie’s health and well-being, so he is no longer medically capable of guiding her care. He has been consistently making the worst possible choices for her over the past decade, because they are driven by his needs, not her own. We have just proven this concerning his unwillingness to repent for damaging the family relationships between Olsie & us and his keeping Olsie and Juli apart for almost 5 years.
Thus, in Part 2, we will detail exactly why he must not continue to guide her care from a medical, not just moral & spiritual, standpoint. For now, we will simply quote Pastor Jim from his 3/26/25 8:39 p.m. email describing her alarming rate of decline in just the past two months. (Remember that you heard Olsie’s voice and state of mind in the audio clip above from 1/31/25, just two months before Jim wrote this.)
But while Pastor Jim is correct that she has become dramatically worse since then, we will prove in Part 2, according to the world’s top neurologists and researchers in the field of neurocognitive diseases, that it is primarily because of his medical decisions to act or not act upon various scientifically proven treatments:
Whatever Olsie told or tells you is probably not reliable anymore. Her cognitive decline is more obvious from month to month, she can hardly add eight and eight, is totally unreliable anymore on numbers and names; aphasia a huge problem. Yesterday after trying a dozen times or so could not come close to pronouncing the word “elevator” even as I carefully pronounced it for her. She cannot even name all of her 5 great grans.
On our way home from Naples, in Dallas she thought she was on a train, not a plane sitting on the tarmac, was terribly confused all the way back. Though we two have some good conversations, if I am patient, [s]he has trouble composing her thoughts and expressing them in a linear way, and expressing when she is stressed, which is frequently the case.
So then, dear reader, if Pastor Jim does not immediately get adequate medical attention for both himself and Olsie, he is condemning them both to something like what ABC correspondent Cynthia McFadden experienced in an Alzheimer’s simulation exercise.
So what can you do? Call Pastor John Dotson at (503) 915-7577. This is Jim’s other son-in-law, and also the Pastor of Men’s and Student Ministries at Lake Bible Church in Lake Oswego. His wife is Kristi, Juli’s sister.
We do not suggest calling or emailing Pastor Jim personally, because he is not responding to concerned people who are trying to contact him.
Please express your concern to Pastor John & his wife Kristi about Pastor Jim’s abusive treatment of Olsie and beg them to intervene so that Juli & I will not be forced to submit the additional evidence we have gathered to the State of Oregon so it can begin an investigation of Pastor Jim. But one thing is certain, we will do whatever we must to save both Olsie’s and Jim’s lives, for that is our Christian duty and honor.
Finally, we need to say that it is cruel to allow one’s parent to die such a humiliating and terrifying death (from various neurocognitive diseases) when scientific advances over the past 30 years have made this completely unnecessary (proof forthcoming in Part 2). Olsie has frequently expressed to us how afraid she is of dementia and going into a nursing home, even being unable to say those specific words out loud. Up ‘til now, she has been willing to continue trying, but we do not know how long this will continue. Please pray for her and act now!
What’s Wrong with Lake Bible Church? Part 2
“You’re Enabling My Dad to Endanger My Life!”
This article is Part 2 of the Open Letter from Juli (& me) to all current and former attenders/members of Lake Bible Church, or to anyone who has benefited from (Emeritus) Pastor Jim’s radio and books ministries, TFW and JAB. If you have not yet read Part 1, please do so now, as it is intertwined with this article thematically and biblically.
As we will demonstrate in this article, Pastor Jim has taught consistently throughout Scripture that all believers are to hold one another accountable, since we are all part of the Body of Christ. This function is part of the those stemming from the Priesthood of All Believers. These teachings, among others, have been collected and arranged into three Subjects on our TFW website: The Definition and Purpose of the Church, and The Practices of the Church, and Spiritual Gifts in the Church:
Here is a very brief summary of the key passages that Pastor Jim has exposited on this subject:
Eph. 4:3-16:
1) We must never focus on the recipient of the spiritual gift more than the Giver Himself (from 13:00-14:45), 2) We should never use our spiritual gifts selfishly or to over shadow those with smaller gifts (@17:20), 3) We should never use our gifts to tear down other members of the Body; all parts of the Body are to work together harmoniously to serve Christ the Head (@22:00).
1 Cor 12:1-11:
1) We must guard against those with greater gifts, including preachers and other leaders, from getting puffed up (@14-15 min), 2) We have each been given a spiritual gift at conversion by the Holy Spirit, v.7 (@16 min.), 3) We must reject those who try to force all believers to have the same gift; variety is part of His plan! (@17 min), 4) We must not use our gifts to exalt ourselves or manipulate others for selfish ends v.7 (@21 min), 4) We must remember that we are accountable to God for how we use our gifts—see Parable of the Talents in Mat.25 (@22 min), 5) We must recognize God’s sovereign distribution of gifts and refuse to exalt ourselves or belittle others because of their gifts (@22:15).
1 Cor 12:12-31,
1) Pastor Jim reviews the content of the previous program, repeating at @2:40 with an illustration about a weedeater that lacked a small but essential part in order to function, “We need all those little springs in the Church”, 2) We must not envy others’ gifts @4 min, 3) We learn about the organic nature of the Body of Christ, realizing that each gift is necessary for its proper functioning (@6 min), 4) We see the difference between the local church and the Church Universal and the Holy Spirit’s central role in the latter @7:20, @8:55, @11:45, 5) We must accept our responsibility as members of the Body to use our gifts since each one of us is essential and none is autonomous @13-15, 6) We must submit to God’s wisdom regarding the placement of gifts within the Body @15, 7) We must never arrogantly dismiss those with other gifts in selfish pride, @15:30 (remember the “little spring” in the opening illustration?), 8) All pastors should know that the least visible and seemingly unimportant members of the Body are actually the most valuable and necessary, (@17:20), and thus should be more greatly honored (@19 min), and 9) Without love, all the spiritual gifts amount to nothing @23:00.
Thus, Juli & I have used our spiritual gifts of discernment and teaching (which Pastor Jim has identified and developed in us over the past three decades) and have addressed each of our articles to a specific category of leadership at LBC (Senior Pastor, Elders). Pastor Jim teaches in Colossians 3:16-17 and Ephesians 5:21 the principle of mutual submission and accountability in all directions.
In our 3-25-23 letter to the LBC Board of Elders (p.7), we reminded them of Pastor Jim’s biblical prescription for Elders and congregants to hold the Senior Pastor accountable:
Perhaps the best message we have ever heard about a pastor’s accountability to his congregation and lay elders was when Pastor Jim spoke in 2019 on Ezra 7:10 at his grandson’s (Alex Dotson’s) ordination in Roseburg.
(This video may take a few minutes to load and play. Listen from 26:30-53:00.)
@32:00, Jim begins his charge to Alex as pastor to remain faithful to the Word of God, “to Know It, to Do It , and to Teach It.” Then he specifies that Alex must teach without fear of man (44:45-48:00).
@48:30 Jim now begins his charge to the congregation to uphold their responsibilities.
@51:50, Jim discusses his final point under this heading. He says, “And finally, accountability. I would never urge a congregation to stand up for a pastor no matter what. That’s a bad thing. We all need to be accountable, and pastors need to accountable also. I would never want, even though I’m his grandfather, if he (Alex) is in the wrong, if he’s gone rogue, I will not support him, and you shouldn’t either. Pastors need to be held accountable.”
However, since the Board of Elders has failed to hold Pastor Jim accountable for his personal sinful behavior and doctrinal compromise, it therefore falls upon the congregants to do so. Pastor Jim: “I would never urge a congregation to stand up for a pastor no matter what. That’s a bad thing. We all need to be accountable, and pastors need to accountable also.”
This is all the more urgent because this Elders’ culpable negligence has allowed Pastor Jim to descend into extremely dangerous territory morally. And this could have dangerous consequences for the life of his own daughter, Juli!
By way of review, in our previous articles, we have proven, according to Pastor Jim’s own teaching, that he has been disobedient in multiple areas as a consequence of an unspecified health problem:
Part 12: Pastor Jim has willfully partnered with a heretical publisher, Xulon Press, which claims to be “Christian,” but also publishes heretical Catholic and NAR books. This violates his teaching in many passages such as 2 John 5-10, 11-13; Matthew 28:19, etc.
Also, Pastor Jim is violating his own biblical teaching about partnering with a so-called “Christian” publisher who is willing to compromise the Gospel for the sake of money (from 1 Timothy 6:5-6):
@16:20 Well, some people back then, as do so many people today, seize upon people’s worship of God as an opportunity to capitalize financially and make a few bucks. For example, you get emails offering us entree to a $4 billion religious market, or you get a catalog from a speakers’ bureau offering us high profile speakers for church events at a handsome price. It’s unbelievable.
Nobody has exploited it so well as the Christian entertainers, whose love of fame and fortune far out distances, to say the least, any love of God. These people would sell their souls to the Devil for their ambition, and many seem to have sold out. The Christian publishing industry and the Christian bookstores don’t publish or sell what needs to be published or sold. Rather, they seize the opportunity to make money, and they will publish and they will sell heresy, if it will make them money.” Ends 17:25
Part 13: Pastor Jim has violated man’s (civil) law by taking possession of two websites he no longer owned, and he has unbiblically revoked financial support from disabled daughter and son-in-law
(These two points will be dealt with later in this article.)
Elders, Part 1: Pastor Jim has committed a serious civil offense of defamation of character against me (Paul) by both explicitly and implicitly falsely accusing me of emotionally torturing his wife, Olsie, including denying her access to her daughter, Juli.
In addition, Pastor Jim has demonstrated heretofore unthinkable abusive behavior toward his own wife, Olsie, pretending to speak for her without her knowledge or consent and publicly lying about me (Paul). Why this behavior is so abusive will become even more evident to you in the course of this article.
(Again, the issues of the civil offense of unlawful possession of the websites will be dealt with later.
LBC (congregation), Part 1: Pastor Jim has allowed pro-LGBTQ curriculum into our Children’s Ministry (and other departments) as early as 2017, and he did not stop it when we confronted him privately in 2020.
Now we have arrived at LBC (congregation), Part 2:
The purpose of this current article is to show that Pastor Jim’s abusive behavior toward his own wife and daughter (and son-in-law) has now resulted in life-endangering circumstances for both women, esp. for Juli:
As you may be aware pastor Jim publicly announced on April 7, 2024 that his wife, Olsie, had been diagnosed with cognitive decline. Unfortunately, he added to the grievous nature of this moment by simultaneously and falsely blaming me, his son-in-law, both explicitly and implicitly, for her current health condition.
In our Elders, Part 1 article, Juli and I have already begun refuting Pastor Jim’s cruel act of civil defamation, but now you will see that this behavior is part of a larger pattern of emotional abuse that Pastor Jim began in 2015 toward his wife Olsie, and his sick, disabled bedbound daughter. For example, early in that year, Olsie shockingly informed *us that Pastor Jim had recently begun unfairly blaming her for two of her health problems that she had not caused, nor was she able to reverse them just because they were frustrating to him.
(*By the way, according to Pastor Jim’s teaching from Scripture, two or three witnesses who are of godly character and of sound mind constitute biblically valid testimony. In the OT, someone could be convicted and sentenced to death by this testimony (Deut. 17:6). Listen to 1 Timothy 5:17-20.)
This news was completely unthinkable to us prior to this. And we would have had no way to know this if Olsie hadn’t told us. Sadly, this not only damaged Olsie physically and psychologically, but due to her own already declining mental health, she then unfortunately perpetuated the cycle of abuse. Olsie soon began mimicking her husband’s abusive behavior by blaming us for things that we could not help either. As we wrote to the elders on 1-30-23:
p.3-4 Let me add here that Jim has even freely admitted twice to being emotionally abusive toward Olsie, both times in 2017 (once implicitly and once explicitly).
Yet despite our desperate pleas for Jim to do his biblical due diligence and seek medical attention for himself and for Olsie, he has refused to do so for both of them. In addition, because he has emotionally abused Olsie beginning in 2015, she has tragically become (like many abuse victims) abusive of others, in this case, Juli & me (because we are disabled and physically/financially dependent on her.)
Pastor Jim also began a heretofore nonexistent pattern of blaming Juli, his own sick, disabled bedbound daughter, for worsening or causing her own mother’s cognitive decline.
In paragraph 1 of the following email, Pastor Jim describes both Olsie’s early symptoms of cognitive decline, as well as demonstrating his cruel tactic of blaming an innocent victim (Juli) for it:
From: Jim Andrews <jima@lakebiblechurch.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2015 6:47 PM
To: Paul Grose <paulgrose1@hotmail.com>
Subject: Olsie
Paul, Juli has to stop. You all may not realize it, but Olsie is on a narrow ledge as far as her mental health is concerned. She is not sleeping well. She is having trouble getting out of bed. TMJ for weeks has been about to take off the top of her head. Can find no relief but somehow keeps on going. Stresses everyday come at her from 19 different directions that you guys have no idea about. Both of us are showing signs at times of dementia (not really) but neither of us can remember the simplest things, too much coming at us, especially her. She is literally getting worn out and if things don’t let up soon, she is going to snap.
I realize nobody has it worse than you two, but she does all she can to help. I am just asking that you guys don’t compound the problem, or she is not going to be there for you one of these days. I can see it coming.
Jim
Notice that pastor Jim unfairly and cruelly blames the worsening of Olsie’s condition on Juli. What was her alleged “crime?” She was simply begging her mom to take medical responsibility for herself, instead of fatalistically giving up and stopping a medication, since she had been stating recently that she was on the verge of having another nervous breakdown. (Olsie had frequently taken this OTC medicine for the prior 20 years, without incident, and it was necessary to keep her strong enough to function.)
Remember that Pastor Jim wrote extensively about Olsie’s struggles with severe depression, which began in 1992, in his book, Polishing God’s Monuments: Pillars of Hope for Punishing Times. And, of course, Olsie had been our in-home caregiver for the previous 28 years, and we could not afford for her health to deteriorate since there was nobody to take her place.
So then, after I read Pastor Jim’s email, I explained to him potential diagnoses that needed to be checked out for Olsie [see edited excerpts below], but inexplicably, after just stating how worried he was about her mental and physical health, he refused to accept any responsibility for her health and get her the medical attention she desperately needed [see Jim’s response below mine]:
There are AT LEAST 3 major health issues that can affect Olsie’s mood and ability to cope that [Olsie’s doctor] has been unwilling to check into (because Medicare won’t pay for the test). The first is [one possible diagnosis]. When Olsie watched a Dr. Oz presentation, she recognized that she has many of the common symptoms … Then she asked [current doctor] and it went nowhere.
The other problem that should have been checked into is [another possible diagnosis]. Again, [current doctor] didn’t want to order that.
Also [third option], she has [another possible diagnosis]. Here’s a link. This can cause depression and irritability.
Up to this point, I understand why you’ve continued w/[current doctor] and I want you to continue. However, since Olsie’s depression is getting much worse, you don’t have a choice right now to do nothing. [bolding added]. But these issues need to be addressed and [current doctor] doesn’t seem able to help, so you need to get someone else also to fix these. We will do all we can to help as well.
This current situation is making it hard for Olsie to come over, but we need her help. Please don’t delay in checking this out.
Pastor Jim’s ultimate response several days later (May 11, 2015):
Finally, we have neither the time nor extra money to be running around to any more doctors or whatever. No more until it is absolutely necessary. We have much work to do and I am not going to spend the time I am supposed to be working running around trying this or trying that for conditions I either don’t think exist or trying expensive treatments for dubious conditions that I am not convinced make a dimes worth of difference.
So then, as you can see, after just acknowledging the possible onset of Olsie’s dementia, Pastor Jim himself failed to obey his own teaching from God’s Word regarding being a responsible steward of one’s body. Here are just two examples:
A pastor should take care of his body (same for pastor’s wife): 1 Timothy 4:14-16.
The Apostle Paul instructed the sailors to eat and appropriate God’s means of grace for their physical sustenance, instead of expecting a miraculous provision. Same with us . Acts 27:35-44
Unfortunately, he has continued this pattern of denying access to MEDICALLY ADEQUATE (key distinction here!) health care for both his wife Olsie and daughter Juli, contradicting his own teaching from God’s Word in 1 Timothy 5 (multiple sermons, excerpts below):
1 Timothy 5:13-17:
@15:14, In the caring equation a lesson to be learned here is this. I’ve hammered on it before. I hammer on it again. The lesson is that of concentric circles of social responsibility in Christian charity. I’m repeating myself. It’s not that we Christians are to care only or primarily for those nearest us, but it is that our duty, our Christian duty, it is this: to care and to provide begins at home, though it does not end there.
If we, as God’s people, cannot care for those nearest and dearest, it just shows that the so-called “love” that we extend to those remote from us is obviously driven by some motive other than Christian compassion for the needy and distressed. What motive might that be? Well, just to feel good about ourselves, not to honor God, to get a little applause, to get a little write up in the paper, maybe a picture of us doing these things and pat ourselves on the back. There’s a lot of that that goes on in the Christian world. As Paul has already indicated, something is terribly amiss spiritually in those who refuse to care for their own. Start there. @16:30
1 Timothy 5:9-13:
@4:35, Folks, we should love the world, but we should be like God. The love of God extends first to the family of God, and there’s something wrong with any pastor who would go out caring for his flock and caring for the people in the community and neglect his own family. There’s something wrong with the church, and there’s something wrong with people that always want to run out and care for others and neglect the needy right in their own congregations. @5:00
1 Timothy 5:3-8
@22:56 And worse than that, the apostle says, If anyone does not provide for his own… of course, it’s assuming that you have means to provide. What you don’t have, you can’t be expected to give. But if we do not provide for our own, for our own family… I know people that won’t even care for their own wives when they’re sick or their own husbands. They say, “Hey, I didn’t sign up for this. I’m out.” If anyone does not provide for his own, and especially those of his own household, immediate family, he or she (this is serious, you’ve denied the faith. You’re an apostate. You’re worse than an unbeliever. So let’s take all of these things, folks, very, very seriously, because many don’t. Remember, Christian charity begins at home. @23:42
Regarding this last excerpt, Pastor Jim told us about a professing believer at LBC who refused to pay for life-saving medical care for his wife, and this continued for some time. So this particular section is highly relevant to this discussion because he is now exhibiting the same behavior he rightly condemned in others.
By the way, Pastor Jim’s ardent supporters have tried to defend his indefensible actions by insisting that others should provide financially for his daughter instead. However, each of them has failed to make a case from the key passages in Scripture, including 1 Timothy 5:3-8 above. Rather, they have used arguments based on emotions and unbiblical rationalizations, which Pastor Jim has criticized even himself for: (See p.142 in Jim’s Pastors Manual):
Now, to my discredit, there were warning signs ahead of the storm for both of these men [staff members that Pastor Jim hired] that I foolishly ignored, thinking the Lord would surely not let me and this ministry get sidetracked with foxes in the henhouse. I have learned the hard way, however, that God will never enable those who fail to fully discharge their responsibilities to continue in their bad habit without consequences. Take it from me and learn here. By no means did I get it all wrong, but these errors were avoidable and just a little sanctified common sense would have made up for lack of experience. For whatever reasons in the providence of God, some mistakes are bound to happen despite your best efforts. Still, that is no excuse to shrug these blunders off fatalistically and neglect whatever can be done on the human side to minimize the mistakes in hiring.
In addition, their rationalizations ring even more hollow when examined in the harsh light of the new reality: all other relatives, contacts and resources have been fully exhausted. Yet even though Pastor Jim knows this information, he still refuses to obey his own teaching from God’s Word and provide for his own daughter (to the best of his ability), either directly or indirectly.
So then, does the fact that Emeritus Pastor Jim is no longer receiving his salary exempt him from all responsibility? Hardly. What loving father (and he has always been one, until recently) would coldly ignore his sick, disabled daughter’s upcoming medical surgeries (that stem from her horse-riding accident at age 10) just because he himself wasn’t able to pay himself? He would be calling and emailing everyone he knew to beg them to help her!
Consider this self-description (this excerpt is from p.18; read p.17-22 for full story) in Polishing God’s Monuments: Pillars of Hope for Punishing Times of Pastor Jim’s love for Juli shortly before that near-fatal accident in June, 1976:
Who can describe the horror of a scene like that for a parent? Ironically, only the previous afternoon, as Don and I were chatting in his living room, Juli just happened to prance past us. For some reason, as my eyes followed her happy steps, the thought had flitted across my mind, “My, how I love that kid! I could never bear to lose her.” Now almost exactly twenty-four hours later, the threat of that very nightmare was unfolding before my eyes.
Now, compare that quote with this series of texts I exchanged with Jim on 9/11/24 beginning @5:48 p.m.:
How could any Christian, let alone a pastor, justify his cruel actions of “apostate abandonment” (described in Part 13)? He is not only refusing to obey his own teaching from 1 Timothy 5:8, but he is clearly discouraging those LBC members (who are the primary source of Christian fellowship and ministry opportunities into which Juli & I have invested ourselves for the past 30 years) from giving to us financially because of his refusal to admit his own unlawful actions (as described in Part 13 and Elders, Part 1).
Here is an excerpt from an email from my dad after he and my mom met with Jim & Olsie in July 2024:
We also talked about possible donors to help. Neither family has resources to assist. They explained their finances to us, and that of their family. Jim believed most LBC people would be reluctant to step in because of the conflict over The Final Word.
Thus, because of Pastor Jim’s decision to continue violating man’s (civil) law regarding website ownership, he has created a cruel legal impasse, using it to blame us and therefore deny us support of any kind, including raising support for us from others.
Therefore, it is now necessary to bring this to the attention of The Final Word Board, which we began to do on 1/30/23 in a letter to a Board member sent by legal courier. Whether or not this man was still a Board member then is irrelevant. We now therefore request the help of the public to identify the current TFW Board members and ask them to direct Pastor Jim to step down as President of the organization. As I wrote to Jim last December (2023):
Jim, based on your 2 requests from 12/15/23 and our 12/25/23 phone conversation, you have given me no factual or legal basis for your contentions and allegations about me having your “intellectual property.” If you hadn’t just confirmed that you read my 11-page legal document, I would have no idea that you had done so, since you continue to refuse to engage with any of the facts or legal principles/laws contained therein in a serious, responsible way.
Your behavior before the law over the past (nearly) 2 years has been a disgrace to the name of Christ, especially since I was forced to hire a …lawyer after receiving your threats of taking away our ministry roles. Your pattern of refusing to acknowledge receiving legal documents makes you look (maybe because it’s true) that you don’t have a legal leg to stand on. This is not how any good citizen should act, and you have no regard for the damage done to your witness and LBC’s as a result…
Even if you were in the right legally (which you have yet to prove), your stalling tactics would be considered cruel by any non-Christian, given our precarious health and desperation to resolve the crisis that you created.
THEREFORE, if you expect me to act upon your request, you will need to answer my legal document, point by point, in a historical and legally relevant fashion to authenticate your claims of ownership, just as I did. But it should be quite apparent that I, as the owner of the website/url, have no obligation to turn anything at all over to you. In fact, it is just the reverse.
So Jim, make your case in the manner I specified, both quickly and accurately. And as you said to me on the phone, “if we go on, we’re going to go into bad territory.” I agree. Love, Paul & Juli
P.S. Oh, by the way, I forgot to mention that I haven’t told you yet about the second, independent legal avenue establishing ownership that I have.
What is the “second, independent legal avenue” I referred to nearly a year ago? Not only is Pastor Jim NOT the owner of the websites he gave me years ago, but in addition, he SHOULD NOT BE the owner, because he has disqualified himself from the ministry at LBC, TFW and JAB, as specified in LBC, Part 1:
But in January 2020, Pastor Jim informed us through a trusted emissary that he was no longer healthy enough to supervise all of the doctrinal content being taught at LBC, as he had always done beforehand. He stated that he was now unable to handle the emotional pressure of holding LBC’s ministry leaders accountable for their strict adherence to God’s Word.
… Therefore, based on Pastor Jim’s consistent, lifelong teaching all throughout Scripture (including the above passages) on the primary responsibility of pastors to protect their flock from error (See also Pastor Jim’s Pastor’s Manual, p.173-190, #20, “Pathogens in the Pews,” and this article summarizing the key passages about the need for pastors to be vigilant regarding false teachers, https://help2needy.com/do-not-participate-in-the-unfruitful-deeds-of-darkness/ ) , he had just indicated to us by this statement that he was no longer medically or spiritually fit to hold the high office of Senior Pastor. Thus, he had just disqualified himself from the pastorate.
This where the Body of Christ must step in and prevent Pastor Jim from irreversibly endangering his wife’s and daughter’s health. First, regarding Olsie, in 2015, he refused (as demonstrated above) to ensure that she received MEDICALLY ADEQUATE health care to address her cognitive decline symptoms. Tragically, Olsie lost her job in January 2024, depriving them and us of much-needed income. Jim has continued this mistreatment up to the present, even refusing to read a lengthy, detailed letter that Juli wrote, trying to prevent her mom from getting severe dementia (which ultimately happened):
As we wrote to the unnamed TFW Board Member on 1/30/23:
In addition, consider the horrible torture inflicted on a bedridden, disabled 57-year-old woman when her father Jim, was unwilling to read the 22-page letter (sent May 2022) that she had researched for a full 2 years and written at great physical sacrifice in order to inform [Olsie]…about the very latest medical advancements [regarding cognitive decline]…
And for the past year (off & on), Juli & I have been working assiduously to help Olsie implement the diet and treatments that researchers from Harvard, UCLA and others have discovered treat cognitive decline, yet Pastor Jim recently refused to even watch a video that Juli had requested so that he could help Olsie better.
Olsie has had many falls in the past few years, beginning in April 2022, when she fell and broke her ankle. But Pastor Jim has refused to immediately check into recently uncovered diagnosis of a hypercoagulable condition that a clotting expert, David Berg, M.S., founder of Hemex Labs, had identified in her bloodwork about 20 years ago. Mr Berg, who eventually sold his company to LabCorp for about $1+ million in 2020, had taken a special interest in Olsie due to this unusual finding, and he charged me with the responsibility of monitoring her long-term in order to prevent a cardiovascular incident.
And finally, Pastor Jim has also denied his desperately ill and trauma-injured (brainstem & upper cervical spine) daughter from receiving the emotional and financial support from others, not just himself. This is beyond cruel, and nobody is willing to stand up to him and confront him with his unbiblical actions. As stated above, her condition is so severe that she requires multiple surgeries, but those in Pastor Jim’s circle of influence (LBC members, TFW listeners, and former students) have all refused to listen to our warnings about his health and the destruction he is causing, and have turned a deaf ear to Juli’s cries for help.
Here is a recent video showing Dianna Cowern, a former MIT graduate and YouTube science influencer (with millions of followers) with M.E. (from Long Covid) during an 11-hour fundraiser for OMF, led by Stanford Professor of Biochemistry, Dr. Ron Davis.
The 35-year-old MIT-educated science communicator, known for her popular Physics Girl YouTube channel, has been confined to her bed in a dark room, unable to use the bathroom on her own, read, or watch television. She can only communicate with her husband, Kyle Kitzmiller, through occasional whispers, notes, and hand signals.
The difference between Dianna and Juli is that Juli has been diagnosed with craniocervical instability, requiring surgery. Therefore, she is even more disabled. In addition, Kyle is healthy, and I (Paul) had to go back on full disability due to a relapse with my M.E. disease.
So, unless someone stands up to Pastor Jim, Juli will not survive. He could “call off the dogs” instantly and repent, walking obediently again as he had done for so many decades.
P.S. A footnote to the Board of Elders at LBC: Pastor Jim’s spiritually abusive actions in 2017 led him to falsely accuse us of somehow “trying to divide this church” and “backdooring” him (two separate occasions). He subsequently discovered that he was acting on incorrect information, and he apologized. This led to our temporary recusal from TFW, JAB and LBC for about 10 days in May/June 2017.
However, once this was resolved, we resumed work with all three entities (at various levels), and we helped Pastor Jim fend off the infiltration of false teaching in September 2017, leading to his decision to preach “one of the most important sermons of my pastorate” in October 2017. He credited us privately with saving the church from a serious upheaval due to the threat of the false doctrine.
So therefore, we were unfairly demoted to “inactive” member status without our knowledge. And we were never afforded biblical due process to understand what was stealthily being done to us, since it was not handled properly by Pastor Jim himself, as it ought to have been. Yet we have continued to serve LBC up to this moment, funding the website ourselves where many research & discernment articles are housed, in order to provide a resource for LBC people.
Reader, are you going to let Pastor Jim “sentence to death” his own daughter for simply obeying his own teaching? If you do not act, that’s exactly what will happen.
(Commenters acknowledge by their participation that they have read both Parts 1 & 2 beforehand.)
This article consists of Part 1 of our Open Letter to all current and former attenders/members of Lake Bible Church, as well as to anyone who has benefited from (Emeritus) Pastor Jim’s radio and books ministries, TFW and JAB. As we will explain in greater detail in Part 2, it is your responsibility as a member of the Body of Christ, based on his biblical teaching about holding one another accountable in right doctrine ( Listen to Colossians 3:16-17, from 12:22-13:30) to take immediate action. In order for you to fully understand the urgent circumstances facing Pastor Jim’s ministries and his family right now, you will need to read both Part 1 and Part 2.
As you may have noticed, we have periodically changed the title of our articles in order to hold different categories of leadership accountable (Senior Pastor, Elders, etc.). Now the focus of this article is on the congregation itself (and wider Christian community). So we will ask you below to carefully study two previous articles that we wrote in late 2022 (after 5 years of intensive research) about one of the greatest threat to our church: the targeted indoctrination of our children with the “Christian” LGBTQ+ agenda.
But first, we would like to explain why we felt compelled to undertake this massive project. Over the past three decades, as we explain in this article, Pastor Jim has tutored us privately in theology, both formally and informally, because of our inability to complete our seminary training in missions due to becoming disabled with M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis). Thus, we have used this training, at varying levels of involvement during different times, to assist Pastor Jim in each of his ministries (LBC, TFW and JAB) throughout the decades since we became members of LBC over 30 years ago.
The primary area in which Juli & I have served Pastor Jim has been in theology and discernment. As we wrote to the Elders in our 1/30/23 letter, p.6-7:
Over the decades since her dramatic improvement with her MCS (multiple chemical sensitivity) and M.E. (myalgic encephalomyelitis) after her successful 1995 cancer treatment in Mexico, Juli & I were able to become involved in the ministry at Lake in various areas: Music, Teaching Sunday School, etc.
When I was able to return to work in 1996 due to the same treatments as Juli, I began teaching piano lessons, until various factors in both of our health got worse in 2013. At that time, the Lord clearly led me to switch my focus from teaching piano to taking over and running Pastor Jim’s books ministry… Juli & I devoted all of our available energy (literally, often just a matter of a few minutes/day) to revising and republishing the…books, and to completing new ones, for a total of five.
As you [know]…, we have become quite well-read in current theological issues as a result of our online research, done to help protect the flock at Lake, beginning in 2009. Then in 2015, [a women’s ministry leader] asked Jim if we could help her research the IF: Gathering, which we were happy to do.
It is through the extensive research that we have done over the past ~14 years for Jim’s books and TFW program editing that has enabled us to support all three ministries: LBC, radio & books in the area of theological discernment.
In addition, Pastor Jim commissioned us in 2013 with a massive project—to research and collate all of his TFW programs on key subjects of common interest into an easy-to-use guide for the website. This was completed, finally, in 2020.
The relevance of this historical information is to explain our extensive knowledge of what Pastor Jim has taught about most subjects, and also where those programs/sermons are located in his massive archives (TFW & LBC). He has often commented that we know what he has covered (subject-wise) in his sermons better than he does, since he has been preaching for nearly 60 years and has often repeated books during that time.
Over the years, then, we have interfaced Pastor Jim’s teaching and the information about false teachers that we have researched who have unfortunately infiltrated into the church. We have then communicated with him about which resources are no longer sound.
Next, we would like to explain the above subtitle: “You’re Flying the Gay Rainbow Flag over Your Building!” As you will discover from reading the 2-part series below, both Pastor Jim and the Board of Elders have failed to protect LBC from the dangerous LGBTQ+ agenda. You will discover that many of the popular parachurch ministries that churches have relied upon for many decades have been taken over by homosexual activists and propagandists who want to brainwash our children. And since Pastor Jim failed to take appropriate action in 2020, when we not only gave him this information but also gave him possible alternatives, our church has been openly partnering with evil (See Part 13 for passages such as 2 John 9-11 and others) and financially supporting now-heretical ministries. Hence the subtitle of the article, which was inspired by this picture from Lake’s website showing an actual rainbow over the building:
Therefore, after you read these two articles that we designed to inform Christians everywhere about this insidious danger, we will present the evidence about the failure of LBC’s leadership to protect our church from this heretical agenda.
https://help2needy.com/they-are-coming-for-your-kids-part-1/ 25-minute read
https://help2needy.com/they-are-coming-for-your-kids-part-2/ 20-minute read
[By the way, the Christian discernment Substack channel, The Dissenter, republished these articles in September 2023. Also, we have nicknamed them, “Kids, Parts 1 & 2” for easier reference in the remainder of this article.]
Now that you have read these two articles, we will explain how and when Pastor Jim and the Board of Elders have failed to address this serious danger. This will provide further documentation of the inexplicable changes in Pastor Jim’s doctrine and behavior (that we have detailed in our previous 4 TFW articles) after his prior 56 ½ years of obedience (June 1963-January 2020).
We will cite again the opening of our first letter to the Board of Elders on 1/30/23 (bolding added):
Juli and I are writing to request an immediate investigation by the appropriate LBC elder(s) into Pastor Jim’s medical and spiritual competence to continue performing the role of Senior Pastor at Lake Bible Church. As we will explain, the reason for our urgent request is that we desperately want him to be able to remain at Lake. However, due to a new, unspecified medical condition, Pastor Jim began in 2015 to exhibit an uncharacteristic pattern of overt disobedience to his own teaching from God’s Word, both in his personal behavior and his teaching…
As one might expect with a health-related problem, Pastor Jim’s disobedience was neither total nor uniform at the outset (from March 2015-Jan 2020). But according to LBC’s Constitution (p.16-17), a pastor may bring reproach upon Christ and the church by violating scriptural commands contained in these passages, among many:
1 Tim. 3:1-7, Phil. 2:15, Col. 4:5 and 1 Timothy 4:5 (this is a probable typo; 2 Tim. 4:5 was probably intended)
According to the Apostle Paul’s teaching in 1 Timothy, a pastor is to be an overseer of the doctrine and behavior of the church. In 3:1-2, he says:
1It is a trustworthy statement: if any man aspires to the office of overseer, it is a fine work he desires to do. 2An overseer, then, must be above reproach, the husband of one wife, temperate, prudent, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,
And at the end of Paul’s second epistle to Timothy (4:5), he says:
“But you, be sober in all things, endure hardship, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.”
But in January 2020, Pastor Jim informed us through a trusted emissary that he was no longer healthy enough to supervise all of the doctrinal content being taught at LBC, as he had always done beforehand. He stated that he was now unable to handle the emotional pressure of holding LBC’s ministry leaders accountable for their strict adherence to God’s Word.
This news represented a grave departure from Pastor Jim’s lifelong biblical commitment to prioritizing the teaching component (including correcting false doctrine) of pastoral ministry. In 1 Timothy 5:13-17, he explains:
@21:05, So here in chapter five, verse 17 and verse 18 will seal the case. The idea is that within the class of men who govern local bodies who are their shepherds, those who apply themselves diligently to preaching and teaching, those should be more amply supported than those not as intensively engaged in this work, hence our word, ‘honorarium,’ as a material symbol of honor. Now this bifurcation, what do I mean, this separation that’s referred to here, let those be considered worthy of double honor, especially those who work hard at preaching and teaching, implying that some were not so involved. This bifurcation suggests that in the primitive organization of the local churches, there may have been those shepherds who were more focused on running and maintaining the churches than on teaching the church and devoting themselves rigorously to that ministry.
In fact, we still see that today, often times where a pastor is a better administrator of church life than a teacher or mentor in Christian faith and practice. The former pastor, who’s a good administrator of church life, is not without value, but the latter requires the most investment of time and does the church the most good in the long run. I’ve always said, as a pastor, in a church of any size, and mine is no mega church, but a church of any size, a pastor is the functional equivalent of a CEO as well as a shepherd. If I’m going to neglect one or the other, it’s going to be the CEO aspect. I’m going to be a shepherd first, God willing. Paul says, of those who excel at preaching and teaching, take good care of them, double care. For these are not weekend warriors, as the saying goes. By necessity, they have withdrawn themselves from the marketplace for the sake of your souls. So you, as a church, you allow them the freedom to do that. Honor them amply. That seems to me to be the spirit of his direction. And we should remember that. @23:16
And in 2 Timothy 1:13-18, Pastor Jim again stresses the crucial role of pastors and lay elders to protect the flock from false teaching:
@12:49, Then he tells Timothy, “Guard the deposit of the truth entrusted to you as a steward. Guard through the Holy Spirit, who indwells us, the treasure or good deposit which has been entrusted to you.” Here, the good deposit refers to the Gospel. Folks, it is not enough for us as ministers of Jesus Christ to adhere to the faith, the body of doctrine, the body of belief, once for all delivered to the saints (Jude 3). It’s not enough for us as ministers also to teach it to others. This is a large part of our stewardship, to be sure, but another trust, another charge we have, is to be gatekeepers. And by that, I mean part of our responsibility, part of our stewardship, is to guard the gospel. And this is consistent with what was in the last verse (v.13), to guard the gospel or the good news from corruptions. Corruptions through devilish accretions or subtractions or also obfuscations that befog it.
As much as we Americans are conditioned to be positive, there is a negative side to our job as ministers of the Lord Jesus Christ. We, not just us pastors but elders or deacons or whatever your church leaders are called, we must be vigilant. We must always be on the lookout for predators and purveyors of false doctrine, and we must be ready to expose and rebuke their errors. Now, some people don’t like to hear that. They don’t want to hear anything negative. We can’t worry about that. We’ve got to do our job. Ends @14:27
Therefore, based on Pastor Jim’s consistent, lifelong teaching all throughout Scripture (including the above passages) on the responsibility of pastors to protect their flock from error (See also Pastor Jim’s Pastor’s Manual, p.173-190, #20, “Pathogens in the Pews,” and this article summarizing the key passages about the need for pastors to be vigilant regarding false teachers), he had just indicated to us by this statement that he was no longer medically or spiritually fit to hold the high office of Senior Pastor. Thus, he had just disqualified himself from the pastorate.
However, Juli & I would not allow Pastor Jim to abdicate his responsibility to provide doctrinal oversight, so we continued to monitor the LBC website for false teachers. A few months later, in early April, we alerted him about a children’s book for Easter that a staff member had posted on LBC’s website for parents to read to their children. It was written by Jared Kennedy, a pro-LGBTQ author for Russell Moore’s ERLC website, who had also recently penned (July 9, 2018) an article entitled, “What Do I Do if My Child Doesn’t Seem to Fit with Typical Gender Norms,” positively citing, three times, a known heretic, Dr. Nate Collins.
As we detailed at the end of Kids, Part 1, Collins was a key leader in the “Same-Sex Attraction” movement, having spent 15 years at Southern Baptist Theological Seminary (SBTS) under the guidance of Drs. Albert Mohler and Russell Moore as a student, a teaching fellow, an instructor, and finally as a PhD recipient in 2017). Collins also was the co-founder of the perverted Revoice Conference (promoting “Celibate” Same-Sex relationships) in 2018 with Preston Sprinkle.
Pastor Jim insisted that Kennedy’s book be taken down from the website, but the staff member simply replaced it with another heretic’s children’s book instead, TGC’s Kevin DeYoung.
Then we wrote Pastor Jim on April 13, 2020, “So there’s no way that he [the staff member] can plead innocence about who these people are [referring to other false teachers that he had associated with and publicly endorsed, such as Trevin Wax, the Alistair Begg family, and Thabiti Anyabwile]. And if he was just ignorant of what he had promoted [Kennedy’s Easter book for children] and sorry for it, why hasn’t he taken down The Gospel Project … [or] LifeWay’s VBS, and promoted yet another false teacher, Kevin DeYoung, just in the last week?” “[He] is promoting pro-gay, pro-NAR heretics by using these materials.”
So while DeYoung’s popular 2015 book on homosexuality, What Does the Bible Really Teach about Homosexuality?, pretends to take a conservative stance in the main body of the work, the only resources he lists in the appendix are those of the pro-LGBTQ movement, not the biblical conservatives. In addition, DeYoung clearly accepts the worldly psychological concept of a “sexual orientation,” stating that it is not addressed in the Bible. While he condemns homosexual acts as inherently sinful, he does not do the same for the “orientation” or the desire itself, calling it simply “disordered.” By 2020, DeYoung had become a key player, and eventual successor, in the pro-LGBTQ wing of the PCA.
As you know from reading our articles above, Kids, Parts 1&2, this is the “Same-Sex Attraction” Trojan Horse heresy being peddled by the TGC, ERLC, and much of the SBC, including LifeWay publishing.
However, when we presented this information about DeYoung to Pastor Jim, he refused to take this children’s book down from the LBC website.
This was inexplicable to us, since Pastor Jim had just recently denounced proponents of the SSA heresy, as we quoted him in Kids, Part 1:
“Along with that, they [the ‘Christian’ advocates for the LGBTQ+ ‘community’] condone the effort to “naturalize” homosexuality and to declare homosexual affinities just another example of human diversity rather than another sad example of the whole garden of human perversities. Some of them are so anxious to placate the culture and court its affirmation that they even come forward, if you can believe it, with proclamations of repentance and confession for their historic sins for doing injury to the “alphabet community” with their “judgmental” stance inherited from the past (meaning the Scriptures). This biblical stance proclaims that so-called same-sex attraction is a lust to be progressively mortified by the Spirit working through the Word, just as other sinful desires should be. Notice that it is a temptation to be rejected, not proof of an unchangeable orientation. Yet I fear we are not done with these ever-evolving travesties. The same cultural sycophants can be expected, as it gathers momentum and on the same specious logic, to jump up in support of normalizing pedophilia. It’s coming.”
Then in early May 2020, we noticed in the LBC Bulletin that pro-LGBTQ advocate Ed Stetzer (whom you read about in Kids, Part 2 above) had been tapped by AWANA as a speaker for their free online Child Discipleship Forum :
So we followed Pastor Jim’s preferred procedure for bringing problems to his attention. He frequently says, “Don’t just tell me what the problem is; come up with a solution as well, if possible.” So we did just that, contacting a respected pastor and obtaining two viable alternatives to replace the AWANA curriculum that were compatible with Pastor Jim’s Reformed theology.
However, when we passed along this information to Pastor Jim, he merely indicated that he had forwarded it to the appropriate person, and we never heard about it again. It has now been 4 ½ years, and LBC is still funding this pro-LGBTQ+ “ministry” (AWANA) to the tune of $100/child per year (2022 figures).
Another infiltration of the LGBTQ+ agenda we described in Kids, Parts 2 was LifeWay’s The Gospel Project (Sunday School Curriculum), announced by the LBC youth staff in September 2017 (begin listening @1:02:00, listing of resources for parents @1:14:49, mention of The Gospel Project Curriculum @1:15:37; @1:16:33, Parent forum with ERLC’s “Christ-Centered Parenting” (led by pro-LGBTQ Russell Moore); 1:18:17, Gospel Project Curriculum is the same for all ages).
(Here is the archived link, if video fails to play: https://web.archive.org/web/20240505015100/ )
Not only does LifeWay itself promoting pro-homosexual resources (including children’s books!) from “Celibate Gay priest” (and now Associate Pastor at Russell Moore’s church, Immanuel Nashville) Sam Allberry and his fellow leader, “Pastor to Pastors” Ray Ortlund (who recently endorsed Kamala Harris for President, a woman who is anti-Christian and pro-abortion all the way until birth), but The Gospel Project itself was co-founded by pro-LGBTQ activists Ed Stetzer and Trevin Wax (as detailed in Kids, Part 2). Remember that Matthew 7:18 states, “A good tree cannot produce bad fruit, nor can a bad tree produce good fruit.”
So then, is this the type of leader whom you want to create your children’s “Christian” curriculum? Well, that’s what LBC continues to teach, to this day:
Also, why was Pastor Jim now willing to accept LifeWay resources to be used all over his church after just recently challenging SBTS President Dr. Albert Mohler in 2018 to speak out against the heretical publisher (in this email excerpt below)?
From: Jim Andrews <jima@lakebiblechurch.com>
Sent: Friday, May 25, 2018 10:40 AM
To: presoffice@sbts.edu
Subject: Your wrath of God article
Dr. Mohler –
[Pastor Jim wrote this challenge to Dr. Mohler in paragraph 3 (a total of 60 words) of this email to use his voice and influence against LifeWay.]
Therefore, since Pastor Jim abdicated his responsibility to fully supervise the doctrinal content of all LBC ministries in early 2020, and the Board of Elders failed to hold him accountable for his own personal sinful behavior (as described in our communications with them) in 2023-2024, it is now the duty of those who care about the direction of Lake Bible Church to hold their leaders (both current and former) accountable for these decisions and to insist upon biblically sound replacements. (By the way, the Reformed resources we had located could have been used to replace both the AWANA and The Gospel Project curricula.)
We will give further details on what this means and how it should be done biblically in the next article, “What’s Wrong with Lake Bible Church? Part 2: You’re Enabling My Dad to Endanger My Life!”
No comments will occur except on part 2
How to hold your pastor accountable when others won’t
In order for the reader to understand this article, it is necessary to first read “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim? Part 12.” The purpose of this post is to update the reader on the developments since the last article was posted on 9/25/23.
We would like to begin with a quote from Pastor Jim’s sermon from 1 Samuel 12:1-5 (found at the end of Part 12), which describes Samuel’s Valedictory Address.
Here’s a key excerpt (begins @7:35):
“And that is precisely what Samuel does on this occasion. So he steps boldly before this convocation, and he asks, before he begins to tell the people what God has put on his heart for them:
‘Is there anyone here who has any indictment to bring against me? Do any here allege any immoral or ethical wrong against me in the conduct of my office? Do you challenge my integrity on any account?
‘If so, I want you to stand up and bear witness right now, that is, I want you to come forward and I want you to make your case before the living God, before the king as earthly judge, and see if the evidence of wrongdoing stands up to scrutiny. Speak now or forever hold your peace,’ as is often said at a wedding ceremony.
‘And having settled my legacy of integrity, now, I want us to talk turkey, I have earned the right to speak to you about the mess you’ve made of things. And I’m going to tell you how to put things back on track again.’
“Let me ask you a question: If you were to die today, what would be your chief legacy?
Ask yourself, as I have to ask myself, could you stand before the people of God and your closest associates and boldly invite friends and foe alike to make their case in the clear light of day before fair-minded men and a holy God?
“That should be your ambition. It’s certainly mine.” Ends 8:50
Unfortunately, when Pastor Jim received our legitimate questions (emailed July, 2023) about his decision to partner with witchcraft-endorsing publisher, Xulon Press, he did not respond as he had previously vowed to in that sermon (by welcoming the scrutiny of those family members and friends closest to him, in order to preserve his godly reputation).
As a result of this, Pastor Jim was also disobeying his own teaching from another passage, Galatians 2:7-21. He was being hypocritical in the same that the Apostle Peter and Barnabas were, but not being a total hypocrite (i.e., a false believer).
Begins@ 10:35 “And this is a case where Paul stood up to Peter and corrected him. Now I was making a distinction between being a hypocrite and hypocritical, and that’s what Paul, in this confrontation with Peter, accused him of being, was hypocritical.
“One’s a hypocrite when we do not actually believe what we claim to believe, when we only pretend to live the way we are supposed to live, when we act on Sunday like a Christian and live the rest of the week as a worldling. It’s leading a double life with a hidden dark side that belies our profession of Christ. That’s being a hypocrite.
“Peter was being hypocritical. That’s not good, but it was a lot less serious. One is hypocritical when occasionally or in some specific area of Christian faith, principles and practice, we do not measure up to what we profess. Our own practice is not consistent in some matters with the principles that we profess to adhere to.” Ends @11:25
So then, what principles was Pastor Jim being hypocritical about? As already explained in Part 12, he has rightly warned all throughout his many decades in pastoral ministry about the doctrinal compromise of the “Christian” publishing industry. They care more about profits than being prophetic, and they will sell heretical books to meet their bottom line, if necessary.
However, based on Jim’s 2023 decision to partner with a witchcraft-endorsing “Christian” publisher, he was now invalidating his own teaching from his entire ministry about the great sin of partnering with false teachers.
In order to refresh the reader’s memory, here is a series of programs already listed in Part 12, with a new one added (Matthew 28:19). So then, after a brief explanation and excerpt from that sermon, we will develop this principle a bit more.
The Sinful Practice of Partnering with False Teachers:
2 John, two programs:
https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/2-john-5-10/
https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/sermons/2-john-11-13/
Matthew 13:24-43, November 8, 2020
https://www.lakebiblechurch.com/wp-content/uploads/sermons/audio/2020/11/2138.mp3
Matthew 28:19, May 8, 2022
https://www.lakebiblechurch.com/wp-content/uploads/sermons/audio/2022/05/2216.mp3
This was the first sermon that Pastor Jim preached upon returning to the pulpit after being hospitalized with Covid in 2022. He had planned to explain the doctrine of the Trinity, and we heard that he was having trouble locating a good sermon illustration. Fortunately, we had just heard about popular women’s speaker, Priscilla Shirer, preaching at modalist T.D. Jakes’s church, so we sent him the information.
While Pastor Jim didn’t specifically use this example in the sermon, he lamented the fact that he sees his church members endorsing modalist (Trinity-denying) false teachers on Facebook.
Begins @23:35 “You will hear out there…(I do not like to mention names. I could, I’ve got a whole roster of names, that I could mention, and as I close this, you say thankfully, but a whole roster of names and I can give you that you run across regularly. I just resist doing that. Although the Apostle Paul did it, and I’d have precedent for it in the scriptures. But I just feel that, maybe I’d go the wrong direction if I went that way.) “But I want to say that it grieves me when once in a while I get on Facebook, I don’t write much on Facebook, I get on there , and I see people I know and love recommending this person or that person to the public. And I say, ‘Oh my goodness! Do you know who you’re pushing? Do you know the crowd you’re pumping up?’ People, we’ve got to be more discerning. A lot of these people are modalists, they’re Sabellians. “You say, What is that? Well, there are people out there, I mean, they have 1000s and 1000s of followers. They do not believe in the Trinity, but they’re self-identifying Christians. They are not Christians.
“Listen, my name is James. It’s Jim. All kinds of people out there named James, but I wouldn’t identify with them just because their name is James. We’ve got to be more discerning. Find out who you’re pushing, find out who you’re promoting. And if they do not believe, a lot of them, they’re selling a bazillion books, they don’t know Jesus Christ from a bunny rabbit.
“So be careful. When you put your arms around some of these people, you’ve got to be more careful today, because it’s a trail mix out there. Some self-identifying Christians are Christians, and many are not. And many of them have big names, and they’re powerful. They’re just bad news, and then they mix up with one another.
“I do not understand a lot of these pastors who themselves are sound, and they go on some of these networks like TBN, I will mention that, or that Daystar. They go on there and I say, ‘Oh, Jack, what are you doing there? Because you’re there with these people who deny the faith, they deny the Trinity, and other things. When you lend your name and your presence, your good name and your presence to that, you are in effect, anointing these other people.’ We’ve got to be careful.” 26:40
Therefore, if it’s wrong for those whom Jim considers to be “sound pastors” to partner with the heretical TBN and Daystar channels, why is not also wrong for him to partner with a “Christian” publisher who promotes a witchcraft-endorsing author?
Finally, Pastor Jim teaches in Ephesians 5:8-11 that Christians must ready to stand up against false doctrine, even if it comes from those inside our churches:
Begins@28:30 “And so it is among our own family, when we see each other get out of line, and we’re not talking about things that we can’t see, but things that we know are clearly contrary to God’s Word. We had one of our ladies get up in a Sunday school class about a year ago and something was going on was just way out of the margins. And she said, ‘This is completely inappropriate. This is wrong.’ Bless her heart.
“That is what the scripture is talking about. So often we’re just afraid of our peers and we’re not courageous as light should be. So he says, call a spade a spade. That’s part of our standing orders as children of light: live as children of light. And one of those things that we do when we live as children of light is to call a spade, a spade. @29:38
…@31:28 “And these are the kinds of things that we’ve got to blow the whistle on as Christians. There are things that are wrong and political correctness would intimidate us. For example, we’re in an era where homosexuality has been elevated to minority status. And now if you are caught saying that this is wrong, that diversity is perversity, ah, ooo… We cannot keep step with political correctness. We have to call a spade, a spade. We have to say what it is and we have to take the heat.” Ends @32:20
Sadly, Pastor Jim has taken exactly the opposite course when publicly confronted (with sufficient biblical due process) last September about his unbiblical partnership with Xulon Press. Not only did he refuse to listen, but he also directed his associates to break man’s (civil) law, not just God’s law.
(Side Note: Even if Pastor Jim had cancelled his contract with Xulon and switched publishers, there would still be two other independent reasons why this would also be sinful, as we described in Part 12. Of course, he has never informed us of such a decision, nor has he repented for partnering with Xulon, so we presume the deal is still on.)
Then very recently, Pastor Jim made an unethical and unlawful demand of me (Paul), so I refused to comply, exactly as he has always taught us to do throughout his ministry. In retaliation, he decided to unbiblically (with no valid scriptural justification), and permanently, revoke his financial support for us, his own daughter and son-in-law.
We are both disabled (and Juli is bedridden) with myalgic encephalomyelitis (M.E.). Other than owning our home and car, we are financially destitute, with no other way to pay our enormous monthly medical and food expenses, which Medicaid and SNAP don’t cover. In addition, I am still waiting for my SSDI/SSI to be approved.
This inexplicable act could accurately be described as “apostate abandonment” (my term), meaning that a professing Christian financially forsakes a member of the immediate family, resulting in an automatic denial of his profession. He is worse than an unbeliever, because even unbelievers care for those in their own family (1 Timothy. 5:3-8):
3Honor widows who are widows indeed; 4but if any widow has children or grandchildren, they must first learn to practice piety in regard to their own family and to make some return to their parents; for this is acceptable in the sight of God. 5Now she who is a widow indeed and who has been left alone, has fixed her hope on God and continues in entreaties and prayers night and day. 6But she who gives herself to wanton pleasure is dead even while she lives. 7Prescribe these things as well, so that they may be above reproach. 8But if anyone does not provide for his own, and especially for those of his household, he has denied the faith and is worse than an unbeliever. [Italics ours]
Scripture quotation taken from the (NASB®) New American Standard Bible®, Copyright © 1960, 1971, 1977, 1995 by The Lockman Foundation. Used by permission. All rights reserved. lockman.org
Thus, anyone who will not provide for his dependent children or needy parents cannot be a Christian (except for one exception, stated near the end).
In closing, we request that you listen to Pastor Jim preach on this passage (1 Tim. 5:3-8), specifically v.8, from 19:55-23:35, which ends with, “This is serious. You’ve denied the faith, you’re an apostate. You’re worse than an unbeliever.” Then, we would appreciate it if you would email him at jima@lakebiblechurch.com (do not call) and urge him to repent of his wickedness.
We would also like to remind the reader that we both love Pastor Jim very much, as our letter commemorating Jim’s 60 years in ministry demonstrates. We know that he would never do anything to harm us if he were healthy. Please join us in praying that he will get the medical attention he desperately needs.
P.S. Pastor Jim has, thus far, refused to provide a substantive, biblical answer to any of our legitimate questions raised last July or afterward. If he would like to finally respond to either Part 12 or 13, we would welcome that, either privately or publicly (here in the comments section), in accordance with his own teaching from God’s Word.
