Originally posted on our radio ministry website, www.thefinalwordradio.com//editors-blog/, on September 25, 2023. The reason why we are reposting it now, in April 2024, is to give the reader the appropriate background for understanding Part 13, which will explain the developments since last September.
As we will explain in Part 13, it is hypothetically possible that some of the facts outlined in Part 12 are no longer correct. Even if so, the doctrinal issues would remain the same.
On July 10, 2023, Pastor Jim informed Juli & me (his daughter & son-in-law) about a new ministry project that he was going to undertake. Jim had just signed a contract with Xulon Press, a division of Salem Media Group, to publish his massive commentary on Romans, one of his favorite and most-studied books. In fact, he has taught classes in Bible college and seminary on this pivotal New Testament epistle as well.
However, Jim’s pursuit of this project entailed a theological and moral compromise in three specific areas, each of which should have prevented him from going forward, independently of the other two.
Thus, we are asking our The Final Word (TFW) listeners and donors, and our JimAndrewsBooks (JAB) visitors, to read this article and pray for Pastor Jim that he will repent of this unbiblical, unethical and disobedient behavior. Since any one of the three areas should have prevented Jim from moving forward, we are sharing Reason #2 with you, in order to help you understand the gravity of his sin.
Upon learning of Jim’s decision to partner with Xulon Press, I visited their website to investigate the spiritual character of the company. For more than thirty years now, Pastor Jim has decried the unbiblical, profit-driven Christian publishing industry on the air and in his books. When he has submitted manuscripts in the past to Christian publishers, they were not interested in doctrinally sound content. Instead, they only want to publish anything that would sell, even if that meant rank heresy.
Sadly, it only took a few minutes on the Xulon site to notice a heresy problem, located on the page where they tout the authors whose careers they have helped to launch. Among them was an instantly recognizable name, Pastor Mark Batterson, who was listed as one of the top 10 false teachers in evangelical churches by one of the best discernment websites.
Then, I wrote Pastor Jim back with this information, as well as the other two reasons, and admonishing him to abandon his plans:
“The second reason why this is damaging to everyone concerned is that you have carelessly allowed yourself to partner with an organization that promotes the very false doctrine you preach against…
“So for you to go against your own teaching in 2 John 9-11 about needlessly partnering with false teachers (Salem Media Group/Xulon Press) in a publishing venture, when you already have one that is theologically sound (JimAndrewsBooks), is disobedient, and God will judge you for it.
“Just so you know: Your new ministry partner, Xulon, is promoting the witchcraft-endorsing Pastor Mark Batterson, author of The Circle Maker. You should be proud of that!”
Let me emphasize how important it is for the reader to understand Pastor Jim’s teaching about false teachers from various passages throughout Scripture. Here are just a few:
Ephesians 5:8-13 & 2 Peter 2:1-22:
2 John 5-10, and 11-13:
In addition, I informed Jim about the doctrinal decline of Salem Media Group:
“Salem Media Group has become theologically compromised over the decades just like everything else.
“Certainly, we are partnering with KPDQ (part of SMG), and if there were a better alternative, we would have to change. For example, last fall [2022], they repeatedly sent out emails advertising this online “Worldview” conference for churches/ministries.” (See below [images won’t show], or visit summit.org’s worldview page):
From: 93.9 KPDQ <newsletter@members.salemsurround.com>
Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 9:01 AM
To: friend <info@thefinalwordradio.com>
Subject: Your Church is invited to a Christian World View Video Series: Now We Live
The Christian worldview seems to be losing in the battle of ideas. Whether it’s cultural relativism or political upheaval, the church finds itself in a culture where our core beliefs as believers in God are no longer plausible.
This shifting of balance of belief and attitude towards Christians has many unsure of which steps to take next. Summit Ministries has partnered with Family Research Council to create Now We Live: How Your Faith Can Transform a Broken World.
In six short videos, this small group series will lead your group to deep discussions about what it means to live in this world as Christians and how the Truth of the Gospel transforms every facet of our lives.
Leading Christian teachers and thinkers will help you understand God’s good design for the world, our place in it, and what we’ve been called to do as Christ followers.
When you sign up for a FREE account we’ll give you access to Now We Live as well as helpful small group resources to help you disciple others.
Request access to your free account and stream Now We Live, today.
Copyright © 2022 Salem Interactive Media, KPDQ-FM, 6400 SE Lake Road, Suite 350, Portland, OR 97222 is sending you an advertising or promotional message.
https://www.summit.org/resources/now-we-live/?ims=nwl-salem-email
“Jim, when you click on the link above, you find out the “experts” they offer are Universalist (Lee Strobel), NAR (Kirk Cameron), and LGBTQ-affirming, all promoting the same-sex attraction heresy and intimate same-sex touching (Rebecca McLoughlin, Christopher Yuan, Sean McDowell, etc).”
So then, dear reader, please pray that Pastor Jim will repent for his unbiblical decision and cancel his contract with Xulon Press. Please email (don’t call) Jim: jima@lakebiblechurch.com, and express your gratitude for his six decades of faithful ministry in the Word of God and tell him how God has blessed you through his ministry. But also, encourage him to make the right decision before God.
Also, please email (don’t call) our radio station, KPDQ: contactus@kpdq.com. and let them know that you do not support the heretical resources they are providing to local ministries, such as the “Now We Live” series mentioned above from last fall.
Finally, listen to Pastor Jim preach from 1 Samuel 12:1-5 about how to restore your lost integrity (toward the end of the sermon), and pray that he follows his own teaching.
Paul & Juli Grose,
I suggest that you unaffiliate with your father and start your own ministry.
As a minister, teacher, and writer he has every right to manage his affairs, and you have no right to attack and betray him. Christian doctrine covers a wide berth of opinions, and that is just what they are “opinions”. I don’t agree with all of his teachings, but that doesn’t automatically make me right and him wrong or vice a versa.
It’s his ministry, and his organization. My publisher is Penguin/Random House for my ministerial work. It has reached tens of thousands around the world for ten years now. They print it, sell it, and distribute it. From the book, numerous TV shows and internet documentaries have been produced. All due to the reach and coverage of my publisher. Most of the readers are “unchurched” as well. People who would never pick up a “Christian book”. However, Jesus finds them where they are, and His message of salvation is delivered. I’ve heard testimony after testimony as to how the reader was taken completely off-guard by the Gospel message in my book, with a life-changing impact.
In reading one of his books, I recall that he stood loyally by both of you, (and doggedly defended you) years ago, when quite frankly, you were both experiencing serious mental health issues. He supported you unconditionally. Do not betray him.
Bob,
First, Juli & I want to thank you for your support of TFW through the years. You will find our responses interspersed between your (bolded) sentences:
I suggest that you unaffiliate with your father and start your own ministry.
That is not only unbiblical, it is impossible. We were, and still are, the designated inheritors of his radio and books ministries, as directed by Jim in 2018 and 2019.
As a minister, teacher, and writer he has every right to manage his affairs, and you have no right to attack and betray him. Christian doctrine covers a wide berth of opinions, and that is just what they are “opinions”. I don’t agree with all of his teachings, but that doesn’t automatically make me right and him wrong or vice a versa.
No, a Christian pastor is NOT a free agent. He is called of God, and he must obey His original instructions for the rest of his life in order to fulfill that calling.
No, we have not attacked nor betrayed the man who trained us for many decades in the inviolable truth of God’s Word. In fact, we are obeying him in the very act of holding him accountable, as he prescribes all throughout Scripture.
Did you listen to the 1 Samuel 12:1-5 sermon at the end of this article? Samuel certainly had no trouble inviting just criticism and rebuke from the public at the end of his ministry, in order to ultimately convict their consciences that they were the ones who had abandoned God, not the other way around.
It’s his ministry, and his organization. My publisher is Penguin/Random House for my ministerial work. It has reached tens of thousands around the world for ten years now. They print it, sell it, and distribute it. From the book, numerous TV shows and internet documentaries have been produced. All due to the reach and coverage of my publisher. Most of the readers are “unchurched” as well. People who would never pick up a “Christian book”. However, Jesus finds them where they are, and His message of salvation is delivered. I’ve heard testimony after testimony as to how the reader was taken completely off-guard by the Gospel message in my book, with a life-changing impact.
Your publisher is not a Christian publisher by its own description: https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/about-us/our-story/ . Xulon, on the other hand, claims to be a Christian publisher, even requiring its authors to adhere to apparently high doctrinal standards: https://www.xulonpress.com/about-xulon-press/statement-of-faith/ They even say, “We refuse to publish books that degrade the Gospel of Jesus Christ.” However, their promotion of a witchcraft-endorsing pastor, Mark Batterson, shows that they are not authentic believers after all.
In reading one of his books, I recall that he stood loyally by both of you, (and doggedly defended you) years ago, when quite frankly, you were both experiencing serious mental health issues. He supported you unconditionally. Do not betray him.
Actually, you must have misremembered what you read. In Polishing God’s Monuments (p.70-75 of our latest 2017 version), he stated categorically that we were not having mental health issues. https://jimandrewsbooks.com/product/polishing-gods-monuments-3rd-edition/ Your false accusations are extremely hurtful to two disabled (one is bedridden) patients with myalgic encephalomyelitis (M.E).
By the way, since you posted on our website back in 2014 about your view that “Mary did and does have a ‘special’ role with the Lord of the Universe,” we wanted to make you aware of Pastor Jim’s Luke Series: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/series-2/luke/, as well as the accompanying 6 Study Guides that I wrote to help Catholics understand why their doctrine is unscriptural. Study #1 in particular explains the false teaching about Mary: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/editors-blog/luke-study-guides/
We were, and still are, the designated inheritors of his radio and books ministries, as directed by Jim in 2018 and 2019.
Say no more, as I expected.
Please consider pleading with your father in law rather than rebuking. Your statement “You should be proud of that.” sounds disrespectful, and sarcastic. Please be gentle and kind stating your concerns about him in a loving, coming-alongside kind of attitude.
Kristin,
You presume that no pleading has preceded this. Also, the word “rebuke” is a thoroughly biblical word, appropriate for matters of doctrinal urgency. Here are some examples that came up when I searched for “rebuke” (reprove):
Proverbs 19:25 Strike a scoffer and the naive may become shrewd,
But reprove one who has understanding and he will gain knowledge.
Titus 1:13 This testimony is true. For this reason reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith,
The Apostle Paul says that we are to “speak the truth in love” (Eph. 4:15). Here’s an excellent article explaining what that really means: https://disntr.com/2023/05/25/dispelling-modern-misconceptions-about-speaking-the-truth-in-love/
I’d like to quote from that article about harsh words, “Paul’s language in Galatians was harsh because the situation demanded it, not because he enjoyed using strong words. His urgent and stern tone reflected the seriousness of the threat posed by the false gospel, not a personal desire to be coarse or truculent. There is a profound distinction between speaking truth out of love, even when it requires harshness, and being invective out of a spirit of self-righteous judgment or disdain.”
The Apostle Paul mocks the Galatians’ abandonment of the Gospel he had preached to them out of his love for them, to shock them into repentance:
1:6 “I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a different gospel; 7which is really not another; only there are some who are disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed! 9As we have said before, so I say again now, if any man is preaching to you a gospel contrary to what you received, he is to be accursed!”
3:1 “You foolish Galatians, who has bewitched you, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified?”
Paul also uses biting sarcasm to get his point across to illustrate the absurdity of their threatened apostasy:
5:11 “But I, brethren, if I still preach circumcision, why am I still persecuted? Then the stumbling block of the cross has been abolished. 12 I wish that those who are troubling you would even mutilate themselves” Just read a commentary to understand what he was saying.
If you really want to know our level of respect and love for Pastor Jim, please visit this page to find out: https://help2needy.com/10278-2/
I have listened to Pastor Andrews daily for the past 13 years. I have not heard one thing that made me think he was being unfaithful to the Word of God.
Our Savior preached among the sinners to the sinners. That is the only way to reach the multitude.
Chris,
Thank you for listening faithfully for so long. We agree with you that Pastor Jim’s programs have been biblically sound. However, that did not happen by accident. Even the most godly of saints and apostles are capable of moral or doctrinal sin, so that’s why Pastor Jim charged us, his daughter and son-in-law, to scrutinize his teaching for outdated information or theological errors.
So then, make sure to read Part 13 as well, where Pastor Jim describes how the Apostle Paul rebuked the Apostle Peter and Barnabas publicly for doctrinal compromise that could have destroyed (temporarily) the fragile unity of the Gentile-Jewish churches in Galatia. Nobody is above the Law of God, period. Even the Apostle Paul was questioned and examined by the Bereans in Acts 17:11, for which they were highly praised, not castigated.
A pastor should welcome, not attack, anyone who claims that his teaching and/or behavior is unbiblical. Did you listen to Pastor Jim’s sermon in 1 Samuel 12:1-5 at the end of Part 12? You will also see a short excerpt at the beginning of Part 13, which of course, is necessary to get the full picture.
Thanks again for caring so much about God’s Word and helping us in the past with listener feedback on tech issues!
I have been a member of LBC for quite sometime. I have never heard Jim deviate from the full gospel of God’s word. I know that these 2 people have devoted their time,prayers and income to both of you. I would think that you would know Pastor Jim’s heart and Spirit are to honor God in every way.
It seems to me that you are taking the place of God in judging this man and in the most hurtful way.
I can only imagine the broken hearts of Jim and Olsie as they enter the final years of their lives.
Too bad you couldn’t have settled this in private.
If you disagree then settle it between yourselves. Why would you want to destroy this wonderful man and his ministry? If you so strongly disagree, then why not just resign?
If this is a wrong decision then I trust the Lord to make it known to Jim. Have you ever made a wrong decision? I have. God always gets me back on track without destroying me or my reputation.
This is very wrong!!!
Pat,
Jim & Olsie have spoken so highly of you two. Juli & I appreciate your service to LBC over the years.
Unfortunately, you are not aware of all the facts in this case, and so your questions will have to be answered later. In the meantime, our lives and written words speak for themselves: https://help2needy.com/10278-2/
I am very sorry that Pastor Jim and Olzie, have this needless heartache. I also believe, that God is with them, watching over their needs. Maybe, just maybe you should look into your own heart, where in the end a time children will turn on their parents. Your heart doesn’t sound pure. Your bitterness, such as it is cannot be unspoken. You might think before, you are so unjustly cruel . For you to do this to and against Pastor Jim and Olzie. This has made me soooo upset. I will try and do what they, would do. Pray for your soul. however MOST of my prayers and Love are for Pastor Jim and Olzie, God bless Pastor Jim and Olzie for sharing God’s word with us/me. In the end, we win, and win big. Amen
Mr. Grose,
Your series starts out with “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim Part 12”
Are there parts 1-11 on this series? If so would you please forward them to me
I’m a new Christian and would like to form a Godly opinion based on the facts and information available.
Thank you,
K. Darion
D. Smith,
Thank you for letting us know that you’re a new believer! When did that happen?
As for Parts 1-11, they were not written as blog posts, but rather, as documents sent to the proper authorities. Consequently, they are not available for public viewing at this time. The public was informed with Part 12 last September, and with Part 13 approx six months later.
Other than reading the articles posted on this page, the best way you can grow in your Christian life is to study God’s Word every day, esp. here at TFW. Pastor Jim commissioned the creation of the Subjects Menu back in 2013. These are compilations of sermons from various books that all relate to a particular topic of interest. These are critical for new believers such as you. We suggest that you start with the first category, ISSUES OF SALVATION, and then work your way down the page: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/subjects/
Mr. Grose,
Your series starts out with “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim Part 12”
Are there parts 1-11 on this series? If so would you please forward them to me
I’m a new Christian and would like to form a Godly opinion based on the facts and information available.
Thank you,
D. Smith
Dacia Smith,
Thank you for letting us know that you’re a new believer! When did that happen?
As for Parts 1-11, they were not written as blog posts, but rather, as documents sent to the proper authorities. Consequently, they are not available for public viewing at this time. The public was informed with Part 12 last September, and with Part 13 approx six months later.
Other than reading the articles posted on this page, the best way you can grow in your Christian life is to study God’s Word every day, esp. here at TFW. Pastor Jim commissioned the creation of the Subjects Menu back in 2013. These are compilations of sermons from various books that all relate to a particular topic of interest. These are critical for new believers such as you. We suggest that you start with the first category, ISSUES OF SALVATION, and then work your way down the page: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/subjects/
Mr. Grose,
Your series starts out with “What’s Wrong with Pastor Jim Part 12”
Are there parts 1-11 on this series? If so would you please forward them to me
I’m a new Christian and would like to form a Godly opinion based on the facts and information available.
Thank you,
D. Smith
D. Smith,
Thank you for letting us know that you’re a new believer! When did that happen?
As for Parts 1-11, they were not written as blog posts, but rather, as documents sent to the proper authorities. Consequently, they are not available for public viewing at this time. The public was informed with Part 12 last September, and with Part 13 approx six months later.
Other than reading the articles posted on this page, the best way you can grow in your Christian life is to study God’s Word every day, esp. here at TFW. Pastor Jim commissioned the creation of the Subjects Menu back in 2013. These are compilations of sermons from various books that all relate to a particular topic of interest. These are critical for new believers such as you. We suggest that you start with the first category, ISSUES OF SALVATION, and then work your way down the page: https://www.thefinalwordradio.com/subjects/
I appreciate your thorough research. I checked the website and couldn’t get out quickly enough as it was everything you said it was. I hope that this is resolved soon and in a God honoring way. I used to be in contact with Pastor Jim regarding Juli’s health situations, because I and our daughter struggled with similar difficulties (although not nearly as severe.) I hope that has improved for you as well. I would love to hear how this is resolved, and continue to say prayers.
Thank you,
Bonnie
Dear Bonnie,
Thank you for taking the time to investigate and understand what the issues are. We are praying for the same result that you are!
We appreciate the info about your & your daughter’s health situations, and we will certainly pray for you, as you pray for us. You can find periodic health updates about us located at our support website, http://www.help2needy.com.
We encourage you to listen to Pastor Jim daily, as we do every night. We have learned nearly everything we know from his private tutelage in theology over the past 40 years (for Juli, it began even earlier, as a child!).
Remember that The Final Word (as far as we know) is still being aired on the radio stations listed on our Home page, featuring the Gospel of Matthew. As you can see, we are finishing up the Epistle to the Philippians here.
In Christ,
Paul & Juli
Thank you Paul & Juli! I wondered recently if there is an alternative method to contact you as I received some information that may possibly help Juli. Although, you have done so wonderfully that you may not need it.
Bonnie,
Thank you for offering. You may contact us at info@help2needy.com with your information. We appreciate it!
Paul & Juli